Posted on 09/09/2011 2:26:35 PM PDT by kevinaw2
Oh, that’s nothing. Perry has a birther problem. He’s not a
“Natural Born Republican” and so is ineligible.
Requirements to be a Natural Born Republican:
1. Both parents must have been lifelong Republicans.
2. Subject must be a lifelong Republican.
3. Subject must have never so much as talked to a Democrat.
Well, there you have it, he’s out.
You mean like Ronald Reagan? Because Reagan described himself as a "liberal New Deal Democrat" who voted 4 times for FDR and once for Truman before he became a conservative in the early 1950's. Perry, as a Democrat, was described by his peers as one of the most conservative members of the Texas House of Representatives.
You need to get new talking points - this one has been debunked over and over again - you just look silly repeating it.
You can opt out the same way you can opt out of income tax. Don’t make income. You do have to buy healthcare soon, though. I keep wondering how they are going to fine the homeless for not buying.
Social Security has been an income tax since LBJ and the Democrats stole the trust fund in 1968, IIRC. We have coming whatever the govt decides to give us, from something to nothing. They can adjust the payments however they see fit. We have no money in accounts to claim.
None of this is new. SS is a welfare redistribution scheme. I know people who have paid in next to nothing and are getting $600 a month at 62. If those people were being paid out of their money that was paid in, they’d be getting about $30 a month.
He sure did...25 years ago when Gore was pro-life.
I live in TX. Perry has done some things I oppose, but on the whole he is pretty good and seems to be trendingin the right direct. The essay is R Establishment CW. Calling Perry a liberal D in R clothing shows you are completely uninformed or a troll.
The focus should be to defeat Obama. If Perry is the person who can defeat Obama, he needs support.
No it isn’t a welfare program. That’s what the PTSB are trying to convince you it is. SS is a Trust Fund, paid INTO by the people who should be the only recipients.
Government leaders stole the money from the Trust and added in others who did NOT pay into the system.
Stop blaming Seniors. They are the victims of this crime. It is the corrupt politicians who caused this problem. Theft, pure and simple.
Welfare is money taken from Taxpayers that largely supports people who have not paid anything into the system. It was meant to be a bridge to get one from point A to point B. Instead it has turned into a career in itself.
We might ask the politicians why we give automatic welfare, to legal immigrants for a year after they emigrate here. Why do they get zoning exemptions that citizens are not entitled to; why do they get no interest business loans that citizens are not given? And lets not even begin to count the abuse on taxpayers from illegal immigrants.
If you can’t see where the blame truly lies, you are being naive. Now that the chickens have come home to roost, politicians are successfully shifting the blame onto the recipients who are the actual victims of their out of control spending, using the Trust as a slush fund when the money was not theirs to spend. We’ve been robbed.
I have paid into that system virtually all of my working life. I look forward to collecting it. If you think I’ll consider myself to be a welfare leech, you have another think coming.
Consider that the politicians are making SS an issue. Why? Why are they not looking to cut massive foreign aid? Why are they not looking to cut out illegals from all of our bankrupt social services? They are not entitled to any of our tax money. Did you notice that politicians are always calling for citizens to “sacrifice” but never looking at our largess to the world? Why is that? Why do we give money to special interest groups? Why are there special offices for special groups in our own capitol building? Why are citizens themselves never a special interest group?
There are plenty of places to cut. Lets start with the politicians. Take away their gold plated health coverage and put them on medicare and Obamacare, cut their wages, cut their perks. Why do we need to buy them a new car of their choosing every year? Why do they need to go on taxpayer funded vaca...er, fact finding tours?
It is a shell game alright, one that hides the true issues.
My comments are as follows: he is pretty much correct on the politics and how Perry could have done better. But he spent a whole article making much too big a deal about it. What I saw in the debates is that Perry is more honest than slick. He tells it like it is. This can get him into trouble and he would be wise to watch his mouth. That’s on the negative side. However on the positive side there are millions of Americans that will flock to someone who tells the truth even if it is not that smooth. I think the independents and conservatives will flock to him, the liberals and media will hound him and ultimately Perry will prevail.
Sorry but those two statements of yours are intellectually incoherent.
According to you, Perry is right about SS but it is a "fatal error" for him to be right about SS.
Sorry I think it is pretty clear you have never supported Perry and are mmerely failing around trying to fain support for Perry in the vain hope it will give your incoherence rambling a fake gloss of intellectual credibility.
Tearing down everyone else does NOT magically give your candidate of choice some sort of political help.
As a veteran of 30+ years of GOP politics, who will very probably be a delegate to his State's convention next year, I suggest you try telling me why I should support YOUR candidate of choice rather then trash talking other candidates.
Payroll taxes could then be co-mingled with the general fund and payments made to whoever had the political pull. It became a vote buying scheme.
It is funded not by your contributions but by your children's and that makes it a transfer program.
Everyone says, "I want what I've paid into it. I've got it coming." The truth it is just like any other tax that you've paid. It's gone. There is nothing there. Everyone pays income taxes, capital gains taxes, sales taxes, etc. Do you get any of that back? Do you ever expect to? Why would you expect to get payroll taxes back? Just because a politician promised?
What I see is my retired neighbors using their Social Security checks to fuel up their $150k motor homes so they can snowbird to Arizona every year. In fact they are fueling up their rolling palace with taxes collected from some poor working shlub that has to get up every morning at 5AM and shuffle off to some miserable job to feed his family, and he knows he'll never see any Social Security.
Social Security was created so seniors didn't have to live in poverty, not so they could live in luxury at their grandchildren's expense.
I've got no problem with keeping seniors in their homes they've lived in 50 years and eating decent food. I would prefer if it could be done privately because that would be more efficient, but the truth is the truth.
Social Security is built out of politicians' lies.
I see Dr. Paul’s supports are still pedaling his talking points to trash Governor Perry. Lies as usual.
He is a liberal Democrat in Republican clothing ...he supported Al Gore.. thats about all we need to know
It really doesn’t take much to satisfy your quest for knowledge assuming you were searching to begin with.
Yes it is scary listening to Perry using strong language and inflammatory words like Ponzi Scheme, because we fear it will hurt his chances to win. But this language is necessary to seperate him from the pack, and to show true fiscal conservatives that Perry is the strong leader we have been looking for. Under Perry's strong leadership, the Tea Party will take control of the Republican Party in a few months. Then the government in Nov. 2012. These are tough times, in tough times people look for a strong leader. Rick Perry is it.
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