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9/11 at the Cathedral [Featuring Buddhist Nun, Hindu Priest; Islamic Leaders: NO Catholics]
Weekly Standard ^ | September 10, 2011 | MARK TOOLEY

Posted on 09/10/2011 8:27:30 PM PDT by Steelfish

9/11 at the Cathedral SEPT 10, 2011 • BY MARK TOOLEY

On Sunday, the Episcopal Church’s National Cathedral in Washington, D.C. will host “A Call to Compassion” to commemorate 9/11. President Obama will attend and speak at the concluding “Concert for Hope.” Patti LaBelle will sing. CNN’s Anderson Cooper will host. After the recent earthquake and the collapse of a crane, the cathedral has gone “on the road” and relocated its 9/11 events to a nearby synagogue and the Kennedy Center.

Controversy has surrounded the cathedral’s choice of spiritual representatives. Although its prayer service will include the President of the Islamic Society of North America, a Buddhist nun, and a Hindu, evangelicals and conservative Protestants were omitted, though they represent 30-40 percent of Americans. No Catholic is listed on the event website. So liberal Episcopal clergy apparently will represent Christianity. On Thursday, a cathedral spokesman told The New York Times that a Baptist may be invited.

Hopefully the “Days of Compassion” will tastefully commemorate 9/11. But this weekend’s events almost certainly will not compare to the exalted tones of the National Cathedral’s post 9/11 service, held just 3 days after the attacks. All of official Washington attended, as did all living former presidents, except an ailing Ronald Reagan, who was represented by Nancy. President George W. Bush memorably spoke, as did a Jewish rabbi, Muslim imam and the Catholic Archbishop of Washington. Hymns included the "Battle Hymn of the Republic" and "Mighty Fortress is our God," both suitably robust for a nation looking to regain its footing.

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1 posted on 09/10/2011 8:27:34 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

A shame, espically since I’m guessing a very large proportion of people who died that day were Catholic.


2 posted on 09/10/2011 8:37:07 PM PDT by SMCC1
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To: SMCC1

*especially


3 posted on 09/10/2011 8:38:05 PM PDT by SMCC1
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4 posted on 09/10/2011 8:42:48 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Steelfish

“Patti LaBelle will sing”

She needs the money.

“Cadet in LaBelle guard tussle back at West Point”
by Associated Press

http://www.kgw.com/entertainment/128038083.html

You know, 9/11 doesn’t belong to the elite. They can’t have it. They don’t deserve it, no matter how they wipe their shoes on it. It’s ours. It’s mine. It’s how WE roll, so, let’s.

Let’s make sure they don’t ‘set the tone.’
Let’s pledge we won’t forget.
Let’s honor those who died, and, lived to tell.
Let’s remember. Always.


5 posted on 09/10/2011 8:48:33 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: SMCC1

A shame, espically since I’m guessing a very large proportion of people who died that day were Catholic.

There were also dozens of chaplains and priests ministering. How many orange robes and turbans were there?


6 posted on 09/10/2011 8:50:28 PM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: combat_boots

Isn’t that the Catholic Priest who was hit by debris?


7 posted on 09/10/2011 8:52:25 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: SMCC1; Steelfish

I’m not sure what the objection is. In the East we still remember the canons against attending heretical conventicles. Surely you Latins don’t really want to show up at a “service” run by not merely heretics but actual apostates from any semblance of Apostolic Christianity. (Not being on the program doesn’t mean an invitation wasn’t extended: it could mean the local bishop took the attitude I’ve just enunciated.)


8 posted on 09/10/2011 8:55:04 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: unkus

Yes. Father Judge. One of the 1st deceased carried out. He is seen in one of the towers in the Naudet documentary, with the firefighters, praying as he walked around.


9 posted on 09/10/2011 8:56:33 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: jessduntno

Why no protest from the Cardinal for Washington DC?

Catholic prelates are being cowards. The Hindu (paganism) Muslim (pedophile prophet and serial bigamist) and a Buddhist nun (cycles of rebirths from humans to rats) have no bloody business being there.

But then again our current WH occupant said “We are NOT a Christian nation.”

Where’s Maxine Waters when he need her to tell them “To Go To Hell”?


10 posted on 09/10/2011 8:57:00 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: unkus
Yes, Father Mychal Judge.


Here is Father Mike's helmet being presented to the Pope.

11 posted on 09/10/2011 8:58:50 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: Steelfish

Will the LGBT Community be represented? Maybe liberal Episcopal clergy apparently will represent them too? I’ll remember those of all faiths who died on 9/11 in my prayers at Mass tomorrow.


12 posted on 09/10/2011 8:59:47 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Psalm 109:8)
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To: Steelfish

If I could say just one thing, please: To those who died on 9/11 - I’m sorry for this crap. There are those of us faithful, however, who do mourn for you, who pray for you, & who remember you.

Eternal rest grant unto them, oh Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon them, and may they rest in peace. Amen.


13 posted on 09/10/2011 9:02:24 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: SMCC1

I googled and found there are over a billion Catholics in the world - a major denominaiton within a major religion.

It’s a shame, for not only those who died, but I bet many of the first responders were Catholic.


14 posted on 09/10/2011 9:03:44 PM PDT by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: Mike Darancette

No doubt a buggering Episcopal bishop or two may be there. Oh I forgot, we now have lesbian Episcopal bishops as well.


15 posted on 09/10/2011 9:04:11 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: SMCC1

There sure were a lot of Irish and Italian names on the roster of FDNY and NYPD killed that day. And I seem to recall seeing an awful lot of funeral Masses being conducted.

Not that there weren’t all kids of religions represented among them, but to exclude the clergy of the faith of so many of the fallen is beyond insulting. Of course Bloomberg excluded ALL clergy and FDNY from the NYC event. Go figure.


16 posted on 09/10/2011 9:05:37 PM PDT by EDINVA ( Jimmy McMillan '12: because RENT'S TOO DAMN HIGH)
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To: NEWwoman

Patti LaBelle is “crap” for sure.


17 posted on 09/10/2011 9:06:39 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

You forgot the scorn quotes around “bishop” and “bishops” in your post.


18 posted on 09/10/2011 9:07:14 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Mike Darancette

This week’s liturgy is about forgiveness, 70 times 7...at my Mass the priest tried to tie it in with 9/11. It was a difficult homily.


19 posted on 09/10/2011 9:09:05 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Steelfish

In a word - no Christians allowed.


20 posted on 09/10/2011 9:09:34 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Am The Person Whom I've Been Waiting For.)
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To: Steelfish

I will not be attending. I will be assisting my neighbors as a volunteer firefighter (fire police) who were inundated by flood waters from Lee this past week.


21 posted on 09/10/2011 9:13:27 PM PDT by Shady (The undeniable truth of the Obama Administration...The numbers do not lie.)
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To: SkyDancer

This “Memorial” rubs salt into the wounds of those bereaved. Why is the rest of American quiet on this? Why no protests? Where are our Republican presidential candidates? Sarah Palin, please take the lead and speak up!


22 posted on 09/10/2011 9:14:59 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

It’s not like there is a lack of wonderful talent to choose from.

This somber occasion has become too PC.


23 posted on 09/10/2011 9:16:38 PM PDT by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: Steelfish; NEWwoman

Patti LaBelle?

The SAME Patti Labelle whose GOONS attacked a West Point cadet outside an airport because he was in “her space” as he spoke on his phone?

The SAME Patti Labelle whose GOONS beat him into semi-consciousness, then concocted a story with the help of fawning police who had their picture taken with her?

The SAME Patti Labelle whose concocted story had the cadet ejected from West Point?

That piece of crap has no right to be there. If there were justice, she would be behind bars, that talentless, worthless has-been anti-American whore, instead of singing in the National Cathedral. This day will be soiled because of her presence.


24 posted on 09/10/2011 9:17:38 PM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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To: The_Reader_David
I would venture to say that today's Episcopalians and Anglicans are about as close to heretics as you can get.
25 posted on 09/10/2011 9:17:40 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: Steelfish

I guess it’s because of indifference. People think that well so what, it happened ten years ago. Do we still honor Pearl Harbor the same way? They think that since it’s in the past it should be forgotten. Problem is, there are still those that want to destroy America. The time will come .....


26 posted on 09/10/2011 9:18:30 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Am The Person Whom I've Been Waiting For.)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Yes, Father Mychal Judge.

Here is Father Mike’s helmet being presented to the Pope.


Thank you for that, S J.


27 posted on 09/10/2011 9:20:25 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: rlmorel

You nailed it! Thanks


28 posted on 09/10/2011 9:21:20 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: combat_boots

Thanks, combat_boots. I couldn’t remember his name but remembered he was one of the first to be carried out.


29 posted on 09/10/2011 9:22:37 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Steelfish
So, he is going to discriminate against Christians. According to a 2008 survey by the “American Religious Identification Survey” of the 48 continuous states did a “random-digit-dialing survey”. Respondents were asked to describe themselves by answering an open-ended question. Of those asked, 173,402,000 identified themselves as one or another Christian denomination (57,199,000 identified themselves as Catholic). Of those asked 14,331,000 said they didn't have a religion. The remainder divided themselves among Jewish (2,680,000), Muslim (1,249,000), Buddhist (1,189,000), Unitarian/Universalist (586,000), Hindu (582,000), Native American (186,000), Wicca (342,000), Pagan (340,000), Spiritualist (426,000), “other classified” (325,000).

So, the main religions of the U.S. (Christians and Jews) are not invited, but three of the religions with the least memberships HAVE been invited. I wonder if the crosses will have to be covered again?

30 posted on 09/10/2011 9:24:48 PM PDT by Humal
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To: Humal

This president will make sure Christians are represented by gay “bishops”

Obama “We are not a Christian nation”


31 posted on 09/10/2011 9:28:29 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: combat_boots

Is that Father Mychal Judge?


32 posted on 09/10/2011 9:30:50 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Steelfish

He is totally wrong about us NOT being a Christian nation. Maybe those in his circle aren’t Christians, but America as a whole is — no matter which survey is quoted.

As for “Christians (being) represented by gay ‘bishops’”, sadly, you may be right.


33 posted on 09/10/2011 9:32:38 PM PDT by Humal
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To: The_Reader_David

Thank you! No reason for Catholics (or Orthodox) to be at a event run by heretics featuring non-Christians.


34 posted on 09/10/2011 9:33:58 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: Steelfish

I am going to take a break from all this for the next 24 hours.

I remarked to my wife that not a single day has gone by since 9/11 where it didn’t enter my thoughts at least once.

It kind of staggered me to realize that. Amazing. I feel just as angry about it today as I did back then, it is as if every time it comes up, a scab is ripped off.

It seems like every single thing I read or hear irritates me or pisses me off about it.

Tomorrow, I will remember those who died on 9/11 and their families.

I will mourn the loss of our military personnel who have given their lives so that the battle is fought on foreign shores, and not here at home.

I will feel the anger towards those who perpetrated 9/11 and their apologists, and pray to God for the strength to come to terms with it, find inner peace and someday, perhaps, even forgive them.

I will remind myself yet again that there is evil in the world, that evil and aggression are attracted to weakness in the way sharks are attracted to blood. Whether we were weak or not isn’t really the main issue, it is that we were perceived as such. And we still are. And liberals perpetuate it, both knowingly and unknowingly through their infuriating inability and refusal to understand or accept reality, and their unshakeable belief in utopian ideals.


35 posted on 09/10/2011 9:37:02 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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To: bwc2221

You would venture wrongly with regard to Anglicans. Most are very orthodox with the exception of the apostate church in the US, most of Canada, parts of the English church and parts of the church in Australia.


36 posted on 09/10/2011 9:41:42 PM PDT by miele man
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To: Steelfish

I had this dream about a week after 9/11. I woke up in the middle of the night, and had to sit down at the computer and type it out before I forgot it, though in retrospect, I never did forget it. The details and feeling of that nightmare are as fresh right now as if I had just woken up.

I am standing in a room. It is not square, or rectangular, it is irregular. The ceiling is low, and there is no furniture. The walls are white or grey. The room opens on several sides, to darkness. They must be stairwells.

All around, there is smoke, and silent panic.

There are men in white shirts and ties, women wearing slacks and flat-heeled shoes, all looking at me with large black eyes. If there is any white in their eyes, I cannot see it.

Next to me is a firefighter. Thick, black, coat. Boots. Helmet. He is silently looking at the people who, though spread out, somehow seem to be huddling together. Nobody is speaking, but the silent scream of panic is tangible. Everyone seems poised, for what I don’t know. They all seem to be looking at me.

I notice how heavy everything feels, the coat, the helmet, the oxygen tank on my back. The boots on my feet feel like leaden weights. In my left arm, I am holding something large and disk shaped. It must be a coiled canvas fire hose that I carried up here. In my right hand, I am holding a shaft of some type. It occurs to me that it must be an axe, the same kind that Jack Nicholson wielded in the movie The Shining. It weighs a ton. I weigh a ton. I think of the paratroopers who jumped out of C-47’s on D-Day in World War II. They couldn’t move, and I don’t feel like I can, either.

Although I am not breathing heavily, I feel fatigue that penetrates right through my muscles to the bone. Everything burns, as if I am running a marathon. Just standing there, I feel like I am at the bottom of the ocean with the weight of miles of ocean resting on top of me.

Time to move.

I take a breath, and call out in the most confident and commanding voice I can muster “Okay everyone, follow me, we are going to go down this stairwell.” As I turn around and take a step into the darkened pit, black, malicious, evil smoke billows up from the depths. Everywhere in the advancing clouds where there is a hole or diminished density of smoke, dark, but bright tangerine globules of flaming intensity surge forward trying to be free of the smoke. I instantly spin around, shouting to the crowd “We have to find another way!” At that moment, a thick metal I-beam appears from above and crushes the firefighter standing next to me. I am aware of things coming through the ceiling, everywhere. Big things. Small things. It is raining. People are running everywhere, in every direction, screaming and yelling. I reach down, grabbing the neck of the coat of the crushed fireman, and begin to drag him with one hand. I seem to have superhuman strength. As I begin to drag him by the collar to one of the stairwells, I shout out “Everybody, this way!” I know that no one can hear me. I know they are past the point of listening or even hearing. I know all this without even thinking about it, or knowing it.

Then everything is dark, and I wake up.


37 posted on 09/10/2011 9:43:58 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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To: rlmorel

I am a CATHOLIC of ITALIAN descent. WTF is bloomberg thinking or is it our mighty leader who is really calling the shots? If you told me on 911 that no priest would be at the memorial...


38 posted on 09/10/2011 9:47:16 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (donnafrflorida)
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To: Miss Didi
It was a difficult homily.

Sometimes it is difficult to be a Christian.

39 posted on 09/10/2011 9:48:25 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Psalm 109:8)
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To: Steelfish

I still have this email from that day. I wrote it to myself...

On Sep 11, 2001, at 11:21 AM, ******* wrote:

It was a day, that for me was not much different than any other day in my recent life. I got up early, ate cereal for breakfast, stayed in the shower longer than I should have and went to work the way I normally do. I got upset at the same things that always made me upset, and got excited about the kinds of things that made me excited. I walked through the day the way I always have. Until Michelle Ayotte showed up in my doorway, life was pretty much the same as it had been. At 9:20 AM EST, things changed. Everything else was the same as it had been before. The sun was shining brightly with a nice breeze, Canadian Geese took to the air as they ever did. But my whole life changed at that moment. A rubicon was crossed, and it marked a division in the landscape of my life as clearly and unequivocally as a land mass is divided by an ocean on a map. When I crossed that ocean, I closed my door and was unable to look back at the land I had left behind me, because I knew it was in the past, and the voyage ahead of me was going to be very different than the one I left behind.

Note the time. It was less than an hour after the North Tower fell.


40 posted on 09/10/2011 9:50:22 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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No Catholics or Evangelicals. Only Christians “light”, those who embrace mudering the unborn and homosexual marriage. And, of course, Muslims who hate us. Obama soils everything he comes near.


41 posted on 09/10/2011 9:52:50 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: Mike Darancette
"...Sometimes it is difficult to be a Christian..."

I pray that God gives me the perspective on this, to keep it from eating me from the inside out. I feel that if I could find it in my heart to forgive those who were responsible (and their apologists) I could live up to Christian ideals and find peace.

But it is hard. It is so damned hard.

42 posted on 09/10/2011 9:53:38 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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To: Donnafrflorida

I don’t know. I just don’t know. It is as if the prime consideration of all this is political, not spiritual.


43 posted on 09/10/2011 9:54:49 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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To: Steelfish

But we are a nation of Christians.


44 posted on 09/10/2011 10:01:43 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Psalm 109:8)
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To: rlmorel

You write well. And now to think how the current WH occupant has made a sheer mockery of this memorial. When the service was held on the first anniversary no one would even have dared suggested a Buddhist nun, a Moslem imam, or a Hindu priest during a prayer service at the national Cathedral. Heaven alone knows who’d be on the stage when commemorating the 25th anniversary. A bunch of turbaned priests, saffron-clad Buddhist monks, some half-naked Indian fakirs, and a sprinkling of New Age nuts, and may be the head of Scientology.


45 posted on 09/10/2011 10:03:54 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

I can’t get my head around this. It isn’t casual or unintentional. They are doing it this way for a reason.


46 posted on 09/10/2011 10:05:14 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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To: Steelfish

They are evacuating the Israeli embassy tonight. Iran is closer than ever to a nuke. Syria is at a state of Civil War. Turkey and Israel are close to the brink, and Russia’s making a defense compact with Iran.

Obama has breached the cockpit. Can the passengers crash the cabin before the plane hits the ground?


47 posted on 09/10/2011 10:15:37 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: rlmorel
I can’t get my head around this.

But there is something we can do individually and that is go to Mass, Church, Synagogue or even our own closets and pray for the victims of 9/11 and for our beloved and beleaguered nation. We the individual Americans of faith own 9/11.

48 posted on 09/10/2011 10:16:58 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Psalm 109:8)
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To: Steelfish

What, no Satanists? Bigots! /s/


49 posted on 09/10/2011 10:40:57 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: rlmorel

Pure evil. There is no other explanation.


50 posted on 09/10/2011 10:45:46 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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