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"An unconstitutional killing: Obama's killing of Awlaki violates American principles" Ron Paul
NY Daily News ^ | 10/2/11 | Ron Paul

Posted on 10/02/2011 2:11:40 PM PDT by Bokababe

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To: Jim Robinson
There’s only one, er, 300,000,001/2 (more or less) reasons they don’t try. And we’re armed to the teeth.

True. But by the time we get to that point, we'll be saving ourselves because there will be nothing left of this country to save.

I know that you don't like Ron Paul and are pretty iffy about most libertarians, but we are the idiots who throw ourselves on political grenades defending the Constitution, even when it is unpopular, so that the rest of us don't have to throw ourselves on real ones.

I'm glad Awlaki is dead. But the idea that Obama and a bunch of his cronies can cook up a hit list on his own, with no Congressional authorization, no indictment, no judge or jury and specifically target an American citizen for death is bone-chilling to me -- especially after Janet Napolitano included "ex military" and "those with Gadsden flags" as "potential terrorists".

61 posted on 10/02/2011 3:05:27 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Frank_2001

The fact that the left would savage Pres Bush for doing the right thing does not mean we should savage Obama for doing this thing right. And how many here would have criticized Bush had he reduced Alwaki to room temperature?


62 posted on 10/02/2011 3:06:10 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!')
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To: Bokababe
Al-Awlaki was 'shot' while trying to escape.

When it comes to matters of national security, Paul cannot be trusted.

63 posted on 10/02/2011 3:06:44 PM PDT by tbpiper (Sarah Palin is the antivenin for the Obama poison)
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To: Seruzawa
Comparisons to Americans of German descent fighting for the Nazis aren't relevant to this discussion, in my opinion. This guy was killed in Yemen -- a country that is not formally at war against the U.S.

If aiding and abetting an undeclared "enemy" is sufficient cause for the U.S. government to take this kind of action, then I fail to see how Jane Fonda can go about her business freely in this country to this very day.

64 posted on 10/02/2011 3:07:26 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Bokababe

Normally I would err on the side of caution as you are, But I don’t think we can give vermin like Alwalki or Adam Gadahn any quarter.


65 posted on 10/02/2011 3:09:55 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

So when TOTUS told you to give your grandmother a pain pill instead of getting a new hip, that didn’t cause any concern on your part?

Or when TOTUS said failed aborted babies should just be put in a corner to die, without any medical treatment to save it’s life, that also caused you no concern?


66 posted on 10/02/2011 3:13:24 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded." Andrew Klavan of PJTV)
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To: gusopol3

You’re welcome


67 posted on 10/02/2011 3:13:30 PM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: svcw
That's a good argument except for this part:

“In order to lose his citizenship, it must be shown that ..."

Shown? Shown where? Shown to whom? Obama? You? Me?

To my knowledge, it wasn't shown either in Congress or any Court.

Look, all I'm asking is that SOMEBODY of some vested governmental authority OTHER THAN Barack H. Obama make some determination that Awlaki had relinquished citizenship.

I agree that there's ample evidence for such a finding; but if Obama is the ONLY person who needs to make such a finding, doesn't need to tell anybody, and can then "EXECUTE" such a finding .... well, then we're all in deep, deep doo-doo.

68 posted on 10/02/2011 3:13:55 PM PDT by PENANCE
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To: mylife
"MY main point is that Al Awalaki was openly working against the US and calling for the death of its citizens."

The administration also called the Tea Party terrorists. With that proclamation, it gives them the authority to shoot each and every one of us at a Tea Party.

69 posted on 10/02/2011 3:16:36 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded." Andrew Klavan of PJTV)
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To: NoGrayZone

Look.
I am not here to comment on Obama.
I am here to say that I think its fine that the US Gov recognized that Alwaliki was an enemy combatant that was recruiting people from within the USA and that they had enough evidence to say “burn the trojan horse”


70 posted on 10/02/2011 3:17:38 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
"...openly working against the US and calling for the death of its citizens." I see, and if it were left purely and solely up to Barack Obama (or maybe Michelle) to say whether you were doing the same --- that is, whether YOU are working against the U.S. (from Obama's perspective) or calling for the death of one or more U.S. citizens (with "calling for the death of" determined from The Left's perspective) --- you'd be 100% comfortable with the result?

Remember, your life now depends on your answer. (and so does mine)

71 posted on 10/02/2011 3:22:16 PM PDT by PENANCE
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To: Bokababe

Ron Paul does not know the Constitution. Al-Awalaki denounced his citizenship by taking up arms against the US. It’s called treason. And you think Paul has it right? It is abhorrent that Ron Paul and anyone else denounce the killing of someone so evil. Shame on you and Ron Paul.


72 posted on 10/02/2011 3:24:08 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: mylife

I understand. I’ve just read an article that said he was not an American.

My point, as a Tea Party activist, in which they have proclaimed me a “terrorist”, is that they can kill me at their leisure.

This is the article I was talking about.....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2786861/posts


73 posted on 10/02/2011 3:24:37 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded." Andrew Klavan of PJTV)
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To: NoGrayZone

No.
Nappytano eluded that.
She used the term potential terrorists if I am not mistaken.

I don’t think your tack would make a viable political or legal argument.

My opinion may not stand up to the law either.
Its just my opinion.

All I know is that I am glad Alwaliki is worm dirt.
Now bring me the head of Adam Gadahn.


74 posted on 10/02/2011 3:24:48 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

I’m with ya! Too bad some people can’t see that this creature denounced his citizenship by taking up arms against US. It’s like logic or something, huh. Talk about being “stuck on stupid”.


75 posted on 10/02/2011 3:27:58 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Bokababe

The same people that won’t take me, because I’m injured from the first rounds of service in the Army, plus being too old. What would you give in defense of this country?


76 posted on 10/02/2011 3:30:22 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: NoGrayZone

I say, “let them argue about that over at HuffPo or DU”

Let them damage their guy.
We don’t really need to wring our hands over it.
They are hitting him for us.


77 posted on 10/02/2011 3:30:51 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
Hey, I'm with you. Anyone trying to kill us, who dies in the process is a okay with me.

"Nappytano eluded that. She used the term potential terrorists if I am not mistaken.

"Eluded", stated, same thing. Do you remember all the people pulled over with ProAmerica, anti barry stickers to be checked out after her "eluded" statement that we just may be terrorists?

I didn't forget, nor will I. I just can't wait for 2012.

78 posted on 10/02/2011 3:31:53 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded." Andrew Klavan of PJTV)
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To: svcw

I’m as sick of you. Call his office tomorrow. I plan to. Ron Paul doesn’t know the Constitution or foreign policy. Al-Alwaqi ceased to be a citizen the day he took up terrorist activities.


79 posted on 10/02/2011 3:33:39 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: NoGrayZone

Ron Paul is clueless. The diffence is that Al-Alawqi took up arms against the US. Tea Party members are the antithesis of terrorists.


80 posted on 10/02/2011 3:35:56 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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