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If SHTF, Could You and Would You Shoot Someone?
SHTF Plan ^ | 10-6-2011 | Gaye Levy

Posted on 10/06/2011 7:10:04 AM PDT by blam

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To: MHGinTN
The new P-Mags are great.

The price ain't bad either.

81 posted on 10/06/2011 8:30:32 AM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: TonyInOhio

Agreed. Wouldn’t want to. But would. And never lose a wink of sleep.


82 posted on 10/06/2011 8:31:44 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because youÂ’re jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because youÂ’re hungr)
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To: blam

St Thomas Aquinas, in discussing human life and the defense of same, said that it is sinful NOT to defend innocent human life from those that would prey on it with the force necessary to do just that. I agree.


83 posted on 10/06/2011 8:36:56 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (t)
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To: blam

For most people,,,it’s a reaction, similar to a dog runs out in front of you in the street. Some brake, swerve, miss the dog,,,and never thought about what they did.
Others (very few) freeze with panic,,and do nothing.
It’s hard to predict what people will do.

But basically, there is a central thing that should comfort people pondering this. If you do not see a threat that makes you fear for your life, you won’t be able to shoot. As angry as you might be, no matter what you saw them do. If you aren’t a sociopath,,,you simply won’t shoot them in cold blood.
This often comes up when a cop or soldier captures someone who just killed their friend. Everyone is amazed and says that they would have executed them.
The truth is, no you probably wouldn’t.
On the other hand,,if a person feels a threat to their safety, or the safety of another, people who never thought they could do it are standing there holding a smoking gun.

So if you arent a murderer in real life,, get a gun and practice all you reasonably can. Then trust you hard wiring to get you through a bad incident. You simply won’t murder wrongfully, your morals won’t let you.
,, and 99% of people don’t barf afterwards either.


84 posted on 10/06/2011 8:41:22 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: The Cajun

Regarding pistol mags, always have at least four, so you can load two and leave them loaded for a couple of months, then change them out for the unloaded ones for a couple of months. The springs will go back to near new when allowed to sit decomplressed for a while. Been rotating my pistol mags for years now. Take them to the range periodically and test them all. With a 1911, you can load the mag to max and expect it to function fine. With a Taurus, load the mag to one less than capacity and it too will be fine. The cheaper the weapon, the less stress the parts will take is the rule of thumb I use. [30 round P-MAgs are $14 at Midway. Keeping four loaded at all times is easy at that price.]


85 posted on 10/06/2011 8:42:17 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MrB

‘that order and government and the judicial system will most likely be restored,’—

Really? restored to letting voter intimidation continue, ‘my people’ let go, racism prevalent. Restored? Really?


86 posted on 10/06/2011 8:43:13 AM PDT by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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To: blam

As a country boy growing up we killed our own meat (wild and domestic) and I am retired military so I would have no hesitation shooting someone if necessary. However, there are many variables that go into this question even for me. Raven6 clarified some of those variables. The initial assessment is critical....determining if shooting is justified and it must be instantaneous or you are dead first. My biggest fear now is someone breaking my door down in the middle of the night and I end up killing a law enforcement officer on a SWAT raid who is at the wrong address. If an individual has never killed anything in his life such as a deer, bear, etc...then many hours at the range going through simulated situations is a must. Pop-up targets with good guys and bad guys scenario would help. If you can’t do this, then forget the gun thing and put lots of bars/locks on your doors and get an attack dog.


87 posted on 10/06/2011 8:44:37 AM PDT by ImNotLying (Politicians and diapers should be changed often and for the same reason!)
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To: blam

with “extreme prejudice”


88 posted on 10/06/2011 8:46:34 AM PDT by Sgt. Stryker ("Saddle Up, Saddle Up")
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To: ImNotLying
"...If you can’t do this, then forget the gun thing and put lots of bars/locks on your doors and get an attack dog."

... so the cops/SWAT team can kill it first ...

89 posted on 10/06/2011 8:49:12 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Secede?! Y'all better just be thankful we don't invade ...)
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To: Don Corleone

Agreed. If the SHTF then I am hoping I have enough ammo left over after shooting zombies so I can hunt deer.


90 posted on 10/06/2011 8:55:54 AM PDT by gcraig (Freedom isn't free)
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If you're not familiar about what actually happens when the SHTF, please take a moment to read this. Actual life experience from Argentina. TSHTF
91 posted on 10/06/2011 8:59:21 AM PDT by jy8z (From the next to last exit before the end of the internet.)
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To: blam

If someone breaks into my house at night, I will not be courteous enough to interview him about his intentions.


92 posted on 10/06/2011 9:05:42 AM PDT by OldEagle
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To: blam
Are you kidding me?

Yes!

Absolutely no hesitation.

Probably repeatedly.

The last sound on this earth the a-hole will hear, is the first round (of 16) being chambered.

If the theat is a mob, I figure just the sound of the semi-auto .308 will change a few minds, the rest will soon tire of stepping on / over dead bodies.

93 posted on 10/06/2011 9:07:31 AM PDT by LasVegasMac (Have ya hit 'em in the a$$, Never let off the gas 'til ya rolled into Victory Lane?)
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To: blam
NIWOSSWUATSSTCOSSO. (Normally I would only shoot someone who uses abbreviations to say something they can't or shouldn't say otherwise.)
94 posted on 10/06/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: MHGinTN
Have 6 for the Glock, practice at my own range on the *south 40* usually at least once to twice a month.

Figured that was enough unloading to minimize spring fatigue.

Never had a failure to feed problem yet using Remington FMJ target ammo from *Wally World* for practice. Use Remington Golden Sabre ammo from the gun dealer for meaning business (Normally what's in 4 primary mags, other 2 loaded with FMJ).
Rarely practice using those expensive Golden Sabre suckers, but never had a failure to feed problem with them either.

95 posted on 10/06/2011 9:20:02 AM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: blam

YES


96 posted on 10/06/2011 9:21:24 AM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: SF_Redux
...don’t call 911, send mail from post office next morning after it opens...

in case of emergency

97 posted on 10/06/2011 9:33:10 AM PDT by whodathunkit
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To: blam

Let me see:

Live in Texas - Castle Doctrine - thug threatens - Reach out and touch someone.


98 posted on 10/06/2011 9:58:23 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: blam

Knowing myself the way I do, if I were alone I think I would be subject to hesitation, hoping to avoid the confrontation. However, if my wife or sons were involved, I would be still be pulling the trigger after the third or fourth ‘click’.


99 posted on 10/06/2011 10:00:29 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Things are so bad now, Kenyans are saying Obama was born in the USA.)
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To: blam
* How do I defend myself especially if I am uncomfortable around guns?

The only time I'm uncomfortable around guns is when one is pointed at me.

100 posted on 10/06/2011 10:05:19 AM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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