Posted on 11/03/2011 5:23:10 PM PDT by martosko
You are NOT seriously suggesting that Cain put these out there!?
articles like this alwasy come out late in the new cycle,
after some people have formed their opinions against the
poor guy who is targeted by the left and the rinos.
unfortunately some people on free republic are now anti-cain.
You are NOT seriously suggesting that Cain put these out there!?
That depends on what you mean by "these"
Cain and staff did accuse other campaigns of leaking the news with no proof.
This is about to backfire on somebody..and it isnt going to be Cain.
The same MSM was handed the Juanita Broaddrick story, but wouldn’t touch it.
The same MSM didn’t want to touch the Lewinsky scandal and chastised Drudge for not “fully sourcing” his stories on Clinton and Lewinsky....until the blue dress surfaced.
The same MSM spoke nothing of the Edwards love child until the indictments were handed up.
The same MSM couldn’t be bothered to vet Obama during the campaign.
But anonymous and weak accusations against a conservative? Get right on it!
Sarah Palin picked for VP? Get an army of reporters to Alaska to dig up dirt on her.
Let’s face it: the MSM waves pom poms for the Dems, and saves the daggers for Republicans.
It’s already backfired. Cain’s numbers haven’t fallen and his donations took off.
Yep. :)
Planning to send more money tomorrow.
It backfired in their faces, big time.
Now what NEXT will they gin up (against frontrunner/steamroller Herman Cain)?? Those nasty guys running mudslinging skunk works get paid for specific, quantifiable results you know--such as a drop in poll ratings or a flat out driving him from the primary race in disgrace, if they don't draw some blood soon, they will be fired from the RINO campaigns they work for. Then what? (K Street is already too crowded, unemployment is high in the USA). Now, there IS a presidential election in South Korea coming up soon, maybe they could go over there and consult and gin up mudslinging and smear campaigns for either the DP or GNP in Seoul against their opponent. That kind of politics.
How true. How sadly true.
Bump
Here is what he said about the actual case:
While he said he had no reason to doubt the accuracy of reports that the restaurant trade group made five-figure payments to employees then embroiled in what is now a campaign scandal, Fassler said he was never informed about those payments while on the board.So in regards to this particular incident, he says he doesn't know anything. He also said:
He told TheDC that he “never heard anything about Herman that would suggest he had those sort of allegations lodged against him. He was a professional. Thoroughly professional.”So he also says he had no knowledge about the specific cases being discussed.
So, on what does he base his assertion that it is a hatchet job? Not on anything he knows about the case, which as he said, is absolutely nothing:
“My gut tells me it’s a hatchet job. He gets a lead, he gets some traction, and the next thing you know, here come these allegations. It’s sad.”I agree with him, my gut tells me politico ran a hatchet job. On the other hand, the "allegations" didn't come after he got traction, the allegations came in the 1990s, when he wasn't a candidate for anything. I guess what he means is the allegations are made PUBLIC when he gets a lead.
But the headline suggested that the person speaking had personal knowledge of the case and was making an informed judgement based on the facts. In reality, he has no specific knowledge, but his opinion has some weight because he knew Cain during that time, and can vouch for his character.
Not that Cain really needed that, as few people are questioning his character except people who already oppose him. At least over the incident -- a lot more of us are questioning his character for falsely accusing Perry of leaking the story.
I'm also guessing that since the board didn't see the settlements, they are not bound by the terms of the contract, or he couldn't say it was a hatchet job (well, maybe he could, because he could always say he was refering to the story coming OUT, not the claims themselves).
Because he also noted that it wasn’t important enough to bring to that level of the company. One would think provable sexual harassment would rise to that higher level. And then there’s the lawyer. Sexual Harassment is a career maker and said lawyer also stands to get quite a percentage with provable evidence. Sorry this stinks to high heaven.
Cindie
Who here thinks this was "provable sexual harassment"? Certainly not me -- the facts are that the charges were reviewed, and Cain says they were found to be without merit. They settled because it is easier than fighting; probably means there was enough there that the women could plausibly argue their reaction was a valid one, even though normal people wouldn't think what happened was a problem. So you settle, and move on.
I certainly have never thought the charges were serious. I have no interest in the charges, or all the discussions of the details.
I'm just saying that I was drawn to this article because it seemed to be breaking confidentiality, but having read the article it became clear he wasn't saying anything about the facts of the case because he knew nothing about the actual case. Which means that while his opinion is interesting, it is just an opinion, not an evaluation of the case.
I agree that the fact the board doesn't know about this is more evidence that people didn't take the charges as serious ones. And if Cain had just treated it that way, I think we wouldn't still be talking about it going into the weekend. And Cain wouldn't be falsely accusing a former campaign aide and admirer of Cain's with leaking the story.
Neither you or I know that. There is way too much fishy about this story. We’ve gone from gestures to hotel rooms. And the majority of people who worked with him (who have actual names) say these charges are ridiculous. And this was handled through HR. Now we’re talking about what was (especially in the 90’s) the charge du jour to get money, attention, knock a company or former boss. There’s NO WAY HR wouldn’t have to inform the board that this happened. This is the kind of thing everyone needs to be apprised of because of the potential damage control. The board knew nothing. Her lawyer wouldn’t let this go for 35,000 dollars. Nor would a payoff been done by fax of all things. There would be meetings, negotiations, and if there was merit her and her lawyer were both idiots for settling for too little. If this were real, they’d have the association by the balls. Face to face negotiations (at least with lawyers) would have taken place. A FAX is too unreliable and insecure for an important thing such as REAL harassment. Just the threat of pressing charges would do that. I expect Freepers to be more capable of critical thinking.
Cindie
EXACTLY!
I absolutely hate the MSM with a passion! They aren’t journalist and never will be. They are propagandist.
I would love a chance to punch one of them in the face just once! They need a good ass beating like when they were in grade school. I remember kids like them. You could never trust a damn thing they ever said. I just didn’t realize they all became “journalists”!!
National Restaurant Association board chairman Joseph Fassler.Now, we're wary, because, as is painfully obvious, he's not an anonymous source.
He's not speaking through a haze of memory, fiction, malice, attorneys, opp researchers, smear mechanics--
In fact, he was in a position to know if there were fire, let alone smoke, and--
Oh no--it was "small potatoes"--happened all the time: severance package.
A nothingburger.
Not. A. Whopper.
Now, for the latest, the fourth nothingburger, why, that's our old Steve Deace admitted reformed porn addict,
down-sized radio host, Sarah Palin-basher, self-appointed Church Lady who said:
Herman Cain complimented Steve Deace's receptionist on something to the effect of "how pretty she looked"--no, that can't be--
After years of sitting on the couch becoming a 300-pound degenerate, Deace found a Southern gentleman out of line?
What a defining moment Herman Cain has created in our culture.
Political correctness meets political mugging with the blessing of hypocrites and moral midgets.
You can be sure someone's dragging a hundred dollar bill through a trailer park right now.
Great summary of the whole event to date. The accusations are so vague it is just unreal.
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