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Sven Kullander On Rossi And eCat
Independent ECat News ^ | November 23, 2011 | admin

Posted on 11/24/2011 10:44:11 AM PST by Kevmo

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To: Lx

You must relish being an Internet keyboard tough-guy, does it help you make it thru the night or do you still have problems from being picked on at school?
***It looks like your own post is a classic example of both — internet keyboard tough-guy bullying, and someone still having problems from being picked on at school. Like I’ve been saying, you’re wound up way too tight.

What will you do when Rossi takes the money and runs?
***What will you do when Rossi’s customers start acknowledging the ECat works?


141 posted on 11/26/2011 11:49:28 AM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Kevmo
***What will you do when Rossi’s customers start acknowledging the ECat works?
If that happens, I, for one, will admit I was wrong and apologize.

Of course, we don't know of any customers yet, let alone any customers who have independently tested an E-Cat and found that it does anything at all.

As has been true for almost a year, all we have are Rossi's unsubstantiated claims.

142 posted on 11/26/2011 12:08:17 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Pearls Before Swine

My statement was a hypothetical response to a poster’s question of what could possibly cause a respected scientist to get sucked in by something that was questionable;
***Then you have discovered where your parallel does not break down. Steven Chu got drawn into the Solyndra thing because the scientific results were significant. So did Kullander.


143 posted on 11/26/2011 12:11:47 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Kevmo
Steven Chu got drawn into the Solyndra thing because the scientific results were significant.

I beg to differ. Solyndra only made sense if the economics worked (i.e., funny-shaped PV cells which made the panels' output less sensitive to positioning relative to the sun; this required a business plan which was economically based and took into account production costs and potential competition). I think Chu was lacking in his ability to evaluate the economics, and influenced by the belief and hope in all that was "green." Hence he was easily manipulated and misled by being presented a biased sample of research options--those associated primarily with Obama cronies.

I have a strong opinion on Chu, but I don't have one at all on Kullander. Hence, your rather lecturing comment to me that "I have discovered" something about my parallel, apparently elicited by your Socratic dialog with me isn't called for.

144 posted on 11/26/2011 12:30:55 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Kevmo

Sure, I’ll bite. Rossi lied about his education, claiming to be a trained engineer when in fact his engineering degree is from a diploma mill. You yourself acknowledged that Rossi intentionally used the wrong company name. I am on a mobile and do not have a way to look up all your stupid Rossi posts right now, but I’ll find them later. In the meantime, perhaps you could try a bit of honest reflection about things you’ve written in defense of Rossi, whether they are consistent, and most of all, whether they are true.


145 posted on 11/26/2011 12:37:59 PM PST by dinodino
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To: Kevmo
Bravo, classic I know you are what am I.

So pathetic, do you really think Rossi's coattails will pull you along if he's right?

I almost feel bad, poor science skills, non existent html skills, I'm sure your parents loved you.

Oh BTW, since Rossi is a fraud, it won't be his coattails, it will be an anchor, hang on and hold your breath.

You were a sucker...

146 posted on 11/26/2011 12:46:35 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Thanks for the tip. I was ready to live forever until I got to the part which said "Open your own Immortality Website."

Is it the website that is immortal or the products that are sold to make others immortal? Then again, if you're immortal, at least your new website will give you something to do a hundred years from now.

I'm looking for my order of the Gorgeouspill, I certainly need it...

I'll hold off on the Super Chi Flush, I don't want anything burning thru anything in my body unless it's hot sauce and his product sounds like it's more of a colon blow that could hit at any time.

Funny that Rossi hasn't got a U.S. patent but this guy does for his immortality ring??? I would say that's a version of a perpetual motion machine.

147 posted on 11/26/2011 1:01:17 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx

Bravo, classic
***thanks


148 posted on 11/26/2011 1:01:59 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Lx

So pathetic, do you really think Rossi’s coattails will pull you along if he’s right?
***I was a Freeper long before Rossi came along. I was posting LENR threads before he came along. I’ll be posting LENR threads afterwards if he’s a fraud.

Oh BTW, since Rossi is a fraud, it won’t be his coattails, it will be an anchor, hang on and hold your breath.
***Your conclusion is not provable, just like mine. But proceeding from an unprovable conclusion is just another argument from silence, yet another classic fallacy. The seagull brigade seems to utilize these fallacies well more than the average 4th grader who has been exposed to how invalid they are.


149 posted on 11/26/2011 1:08:25 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: dinodino

You yourself acknowledged that Rossi intentionally used the wrong company name.
***Finally, after all that teeth pulling, you come up with an example. Notably you can’t produce the link.


150 posted on 11/26/2011 1:11:35 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Kevmo

As I said, I am on a cellphone and cannot search for it. I will find a d post it to you, and I will expect a public apology.


151 posted on 11/26/2011 1:14:37 PM PST by dinodino
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I beg to differ. Solyndra only made sense if the economics worked
***It did work. What it did not foresee was how fast the Chinese would catch up as competition, AFAIK.

(i.e., funny-shaped PV cells which made the panels’ output less sensitive to positioning relative to the sun; this required a business plan which was economically based and took into account production costs and potential competition).
***I’m not too current on Solyndra, I’ll take your word for it.

I think Chu was lacking in his ability to evaluate the economics, and influenced by the belief and hope in all that was “green.” Hence he was easily manipulated and misled by being presented a biased sample of research options—those associated primarily with Obama cronies.
***So, somehow this roundabout explanation may be a proper parallel with LENR and Kullander, but not Levi and Focardi and anyone who’s familiar with LENR results before Rossi came along.

I have a strong opinion on Chu, but I don’t have one at all on Kullander. Hence, your rather lecturing comment to me that “I have discovered” something about my parallel, apparently elicited by your Socratic dialog with me isn’t called for.
***You are the one calling up the parallel. Where it works, we use it. Where it doesn’t work, we toss it.


152 posted on 11/26/2011 1:18:20 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: dinodino

You have wasted too much of my time to deserve an apology, even if you are right. Accusations of lies should be backed up within one post. Period.


153 posted on 11/26/2011 1:20:13 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Lx

poor science skills,
***I’ll line mine up to yours. We just don’t have a way of doing that. You exhibit very, very poor inductive reasoning skills. Your lack of skills are demonstrated by all those classic fallacies you keep using.


154 posted on 11/26/2011 1:27:31 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Kevmo
Oh yeah, like you backed up the B.S. Princess Bride quote you ascribed to me.

You demand everyone live by your rules yet you don't. Just so you don't misinterpret this, I'm calling you a hypocrite. Period.

Simply pathetic...

155 posted on 11/26/2011 1:30:31 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine; Kevmo
Chu spent most of his adult life in an environment where every graduate student who worked for him was putting his or her life's career on the line with every report on every experiment or other assigned task.

I don't think he had the slightest idea of how Department of Energy works. The only worse appointee there was that lady Bill Clinton put in charge. She got all upset about the "color coded" passes in use at the DOE secure sites so she had them abolished. She didn't believe in "discrimination based on color".

As my old carpool buddy used to say about DOE (his employer was just down the street from USPS where I worked) "It is full of political scientists". So now we know what that meant.

156 posted on 11/26/2011 1:31:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Kevmo
You are not now, nor will you ever be in my league, it's just not going to happen.

It's sad really, to see how bitter you are, so sad.

157 posted on 11/26/2011 1:32:05 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx

I addressed that. You missed it. What else have you missed? Lurkers can decide for themselves.


158 posted on 11/26/2011 1:33:15 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Lx

Too afraid to line up your skills to mine, I see. Perhaps you need to look in the mirror for the largest source of bitterness around here.


159 posted on 11/26/2011 1:34:26 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Kevmo
Bitterness, ha, I laugh my butt off at your expense and I dare say a lot of others do as well...

And here's poor poor Kevmo, Rossi doesn't even know you exist.

160 posted on 11/26/2011 1:37:29 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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