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Newt Gingrich is More Dangerous To America Than Obama and I Can Prove It!
A Time For Choosing ^ | 11-28-11 | Gary P Jackson

Posted on 12/01/2011 9:48:36 AM PST by Lazlo in PA

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Long piece worth a look at if you are thinking of supporting Newt. This dude brings up some very good points in Gingrich's history that should give all Conservatives pause before giving him blind support. He is untrustworthy and at heart an inside the beltway technocratic Progressive.
1 posted on 12/01/2011 9:48:39 AM PST by Lazlo in PA
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To: Lazlo in PA
Comparing Newt to Obama isn't the issue, it is comparing him to Romney.

In that case, then Obama would be better then Romney as well.

Perry is the only alternative left, but he keeps tripping over his own feet.

2 posted on 12/01/2011 9:51:54 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Here we go again.


3 posted on 12/01/2011 9:53:13 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Lazlo in PA

Not enough proof for me, Obama has a billion dollars to spend on TV and the people sitting home watching TV are drawing gov. checks.


4 posted on 12/01/2011 9:53:59 AM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Lazlo in PA

In what universe is Newt a worse choice than Obama? Kiss my grits.


5 posted on 12/01/2011 9:54:40 AM PST by tupac
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To: Lazlo in PA
Obama has little skill in actual governing...

Sorta like saying a beheading may cause headaches.

6 posted on 12/01/2011 9:57:23 AM PST by econjack
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To: Lazlo in PA
You are so wrong about Newt that I cannot believe it. The only thing you got right is King Obama is a communists. America is on the verge of because a third world nation with communists control and for people like you to rip our candidates with crap like this only poisons the minds of the sick and ignorant. We will lose this next four years. Why are you doing this?
7 posted on 12/01/2011 9:57:34 AM PST by Logical me
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To: fortheDeclaration

Since Cain was the bottom of my acceptable list, with Perry and Gingrich below that mark, though still above Romney, if Cain does fail, then I revert to writing in a conservative.


8 posted on 12/01/2011 9:57:42 AM PST by Ingtar
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To: Lazlo in PA

Oh good grief.


9 posted on 12/01/2011 9:59:13 AM PST by mnehring
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To: fortheDeclaration

...and his tongue.

As another Freeper posted a day or so ago: Rick Perry makes George W. Bush sound like William Jennings Bryan.


10 posted on 12/01/2011 9:59:43 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: tupac
In what universe is Newt a worse choice than Obama? Kiss my grits.

No kidding. I couldn't even read the whole thing. Behind the words, you could just feel the author's pain, while attempting to justify such a ridiculous notion.
11 posted on 12/01/2011 10:00:10 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: Logical me
We will lose this next four years. Why are you doing this?

Because without a Conservative candidate, we will lose to Obummer. Newt is not a Conservative. Period.

12 posted on 12/01/2011 10:03:50 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

More dangerous than Obama? Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


13 posted on 12/01/2011 10:04:13 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Lazlo in PA

Honestly, what is more dangerous than Obama with nothing to lose?

Obama will see any victory as public approval of the direction he is going.

Obama will not have another re-election to look forward to. He will not need to hold back.

Obama will be able to lock in more judges with lifetime appointments, stacking an entire branch of government that would take decades to reverse.

Liberals will be empowered, no matter how small or how it comes out, if you think they are aggressive in what they want now, wait until they have an Obama re-election victory.

If the Right doesn’t come out in full force, it won’t be just the Presidency we lose. Turn-out is vital for House and Senate races. We need a sweep.

..and so on..


14 posted on 12/01/2011 10:04:47 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Lazlo in PA

I decided to support Newt almost 4 weeks ago, and thus far despite the myriad of negative articles like the one you posted and that decorate the side bar, I have no remorse.

Newt is heads above the others in my opinion. The debate is far from over, and I welcome more one on ones with Romney and the others so we car air out our concerns.

Clearly, I want for once in my lifetime, a president who is smarter than I am, and who can actually teach and lead us.

Newt has prepared himself for the job. He’s thought about the issues, and discussed them. I get the feeling that his opinions on certain subject have evoloved over time, but for the most part he is the most conservative of the candidates out there who are electable.

Cain, Bachman, Huntsman, Paul are not electable. Oh and Santorum too. I’m sorry they’re not.

Romney is a hard worker. He brings a left brained approach to the which is also welcome, but I think he is very vague on specifics.

In summary, I find really no value in your post other than to perhaps raise the issues with Newt himself and ask him to respond.


15 posted on 12/01/2011 10:04:49 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: Lazlo in PA
Awwww, geez, not this...


16 posted on 12/01/2011 10:05:30 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Four years of Newt, this country will still exist for my children and grandchildren. That ain’t the case with Obama. The author is a hysterical liar. Or a blind idiot.

There’s plenty to not like about Newt. But he cannot be as bad as Obama, ever. He hasn’t been trained since birth to hate America.


17 posted on 12/01/2011 10:05:55 AM PST by mockingbyrd
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To: Lazlo in PA

Some of Newt’s Progressive Dossier:

04/02/1987 – He cosponsored the 1987 Fairness Doctrine
10/22/1991 – He voted for an amendment that would create a National Police Corps.
03/–/1993 – He Voted for sending $1.6 Billion in foreign aid to Russia.
11/19/1993 – He voted for the NAFTA Implementation Act.
11/27/1994 – He supported the GATT Treaty subjecting US Sovereignty to the WTO
08/27/1995 – He suggests that drug smuggling should carry a death sentence.
04/25/1996 – Voted for the single largest increase on Federal education spending ($3.5 Billion)
04/10/1995 – He supported Federal tax dollars being spent on abortions.
06/01/1996 – He helped a Democrat switch parties in an attempt to defeat Ron Paul in the 1996 election.
09/25/1996 – Introduced H.R. 4170, demanded life-sentence or execution for someone bringing 2 ounces of marijuana across the border.
01/22/1997 – Congress gave him a record-setting $300,000 fine for ethical wrongdoing.
11/29/2006 – He said that free speech should be curtailed in order to fight terrorism. Wants to stop terrorists from using the internet. Called for a “serious debate about the 1st Amendment.”
11/29/2006 – He called for a “Geneva Convention for terrorists” so it would be clear who the Constitution need not apply to.
02/15/2007 – He supported Bush’s proposal for mandatory carbon caps.
09/28/2008 – Says if he were in office, he would have reluctantly voted for the $700B TARP bailout.
10/01/2008 – Says in an article that TARP was a “workout, not a bailout.”
12/08/2008 – He was paid $300,000 by Freddie Mac to halt Congress from bringing necessary reform.
03/31/2009 – Says we should have Singapore-style drug tests for Americans.
07/30/2010 – Says that Iraq was just step one in defeating the “Axis of Evil”.
08/03/2010 – Advocates attacks on Iran & North Korea.
08/16/2010 – Opposes property rights of the mosque owner in NYC.
11/15/2010 – He defended Romneycare
12/05/2010 – He said that a website owner should be considered an enemy combatant, hunted down and executed, for publishing leaked government memos.
01/30/2011 – He lobbied for ethanol subsidies.
01/30/2011 – He suggested that flex-fuel vehicles be mandated for Americans.
02/13/2011 – He criticized Obama for sending less U.S. taxdollars to Egypt.
02/15/2011 – His book said that he believes man-made climate-change and advocated creating “a new endowment for conservation and the environment.”
03/09/2011 – He blames his infidelity to multiple wives on his passion for the country.
03/15/2011 – Says that NAFTA worked because it created jobs in Mexico.
03/19/2011 – He has no regrets about supporting Medicare drug coverage. (Now $7.2T unfunded liability)
03/23/2011 – He completely flip-flopped on Libyan intervention in 16 days.
03/25/2011 – He plans to sign as many as 200 executive orders on his first day as president.
04/25/2011 – He’s a paid lobbyist for Federal ethanol subsidies.
05/12/2011 – He was more supportive of individual health-care mandates than Mitt Romney.
08/01/2011 – He hired a company to create fake Twitter to appear as if he had a following.
10/07/2011 – He said he’d ignore the Supreme Court if need be.
11/16/2011 – Was revealed he actually received 1.6 million from Freddie Mac, vs. his previously stated $300,000-

2009-2010 Travels around the country with Al Sharpton and Arne Duncan to promote President Obama’s new educational policies: i.e. increased local control of schools with increased Federal subsidies and regulations from Washington.

2010 Supported ultra-liberal, pro-abortion, pro-union, establishment candidate Dede Scozzafava in New York’s 23rd Congressional District in a special election, over conservative candidate Doug Hoffman.

1995 Gingrich Wrote the foreword to Alvin Toffler’s book, “The Politics of the Third Wave, Creating a New Civilization” and advocated all members of Congress should read the book. The book calls for a “New Democracy” for the 21st century which is essentially based on following Plato’s Third Wave virtues:
1. Private property must be abolished, the wealthy hated and their wealth redistributed by state mandate.
2. Children belong to, and are born to serve the state. The influence of parents is noxious and disruptive to the interest of the state, thus every child should be raised in government nurseries, without knowledge of who his or her parents are and without the parents having knowledge of who their offspring are. Every child becomes the common property of every parent in the city. Every parent has the collective duty to watch over them.
3. Private education, like traditional parenting, is at the very headwaters of falsehood and social strife. It must be eliminated and replaced with a closely monitored state school system.
4. Old values passed down in history, song, children’s books, all need to be rewritten to discredit and erase the old virtues and to exalt and enthrone the new.
5. Frivolous children’s games eliminated, new games developed that emphasize law and order.
6. Private industry is self serving. State should have absolute control of all industry for benefit of the whole.
7. Class mobility is a revolutionary idea that threatens the stability of the state and the pre-eminence of true philosophy. A strict caste system and the elimination of career choice is the answer.
8. Talent must never be allowed to wander or be wasted. Early on, children must be identified and channeled by the state for the benefit of the state into careers selected by the state.
9. Under the guise of equality, women ought to be exploited: first to foment ‘class war’ during the Third Wave (women’s roles are reversed to men’s); next, to be promptly put into their place as part of a ‘community of women’ to be shared collectively by male guardians.
10. Selective breeding is beneficial to the state.
11. Unwanted babies, inferior babies, deformed babies, and the adult handicapped are an unnecessary drag on the prosperity and well-being of society. They should be left to die. Unproductive adults, likewise, should be terminated.
12. Homosexuality is morally acceptable and homosexual rape of lower-class males and boys is a right of rulers, guardians and war heroes.
13. Only a few men are foreordained to understand life and higher good… the rest are equivalent of dumb sheep.
14. Absolute loyalty to the government is vital for the success and safety of society. A state sanctioned National Police network is an essential good.
15. Wealth is not essential to the safety of the state.

- Gingrich voted to permit the Federal Reserve to purchase Treasury Debt
- Bailed out savings and loan institutions in 1991. $40B Bank bailout
- Gingrich voted to strengthen the federal home loan agencies
- Gingrich voted for increased powers to the FDIC to bail out struggling savings and loans through reorganization, purchase of bad assets, or recapitalization.
- Gingrich voted in favor of the Chrysler Bailout in 1979
- Gingrich voted for an oil windfall profits tax in 1979, which was signed by Jimmy Carter.
- Urged the House to repeal the War Powers Act and give the Presidency more power.
- Urged Clinton to expand military presence in Bosnia.
- Gingrich voted against a provision requiring congressional approval prior to deployment of U.S. troops into Central America in 1983.
- Gingrich voted to increase CIA secrecy and against any requirement that the President report covert activity to congress before it is initiated.
- Gingrich voted for Jimmy Carter’s “Energy Mobilization Board.”
- Gingrich voted for an increase in taxes on coal producers in 1981
- Gingrich voted for a 5-cent increase in the gas tax to fund highway and other mass-transit projects.
- Gingrich was one of the few who voted against the 1984 bill requiring the President and Congress to submit a balanced budget
- Gingrich voted for a congressional pay raise
- Gingrich voted against a bipartisan 1% cut to the Department of Defense budget for 1983


18 posted on 12/01/2011 10:07:20 AM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: Lazlo in PA

Not voting Gingrich, but the excerpt suggests that it’s a lame blog that isn’t worth a click. Moving on.


19 posted on 12/01/2011 10:07:42 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Lazlo in PA

In this election whoever can beat obama is the candidate. If we don’t take that position we are going to beat ourselves looking for the perfect conservative candidate, he or she does not exist.


20 posted on 12/01/2011 10:08:05 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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