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To: Chandalier
Lincoln was one of the worst in your opinion?

Lincoln was THE worst. He singlehandedly destroyed the government bequeathed to us by Jefferson and Madison. (I won't even mention the dead.)

In 1869 a Harvard Professor wrote, "It is as if I am not living in the country of my birth." Think about this. He didn't live in the South. The war never came to Harvard Square. He never owned slaves.

All the cr@p you've been fed about "Honest Abe" is one humongous myth. I say this as a Yankee who has never lived south of Jones Beach (on Long Island, NY). I just have learned that all they teach you in high school isn't all there is to learn.

ML/NJ

7 posted on 12/22/2011 3:57:48 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

Alligator mouth and mosquito ass. Ass expected....


8 posted on 12/22/2011 4:03:23 PM PST by libertyhoundusnr
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To: ml/nj; Impy
>> Lincoln was THE worst. He singlehandedly destroyed the government bequeathed to us by Jefferson and Madison. (I won't even mention the dead.) In 1869 a Harvard Professor wrote, "It is as if I am not living in the country of my birth." Think about this. He didn't live in the South. The war never came to Harvard Square. He never owned slaves. All the cr@p you've been fed about "Honest Abe" is one humongous myth. I say this as a Yankee who has never lived south of Jones Beach (on Long Island, NY) <<

Ah yes, it's so much better to get your opinions about politicians from Harvard University professors. They're always been a bastion of truth about current events, right? Silly me, I never believed my college professors claiming Bush "lied" about Iraq and I don't think those NY Yankees in the 1860s drank the "Lincoln is a war criminal" kool-aid either.

But you're a "yankee" (never heard anyone else from the North call themselves that, but okay...) who thinks it's completely Abe's fault for the civil war and buys the "war of northern aggression" stuff when the south declared slavery was an eternal "right" and fired on the north first. Somehow, Lincoln was to blame and not the slave owners.

Hey, I think I found your political soul mates:


11 posted on 12/22/2011 4:40:44 PM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: ml/nj; Chandalier; verga; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA; LS; ...

From my own modern perspective I don’t like some things Lincoln did, even for his noble purpose. First income tax, military draft, suspended the writ of habeas corpus.

The civil war was the worst period in our nation’s history. Terrible means were used to achieve good ends.

But I’m sure glad the vile Confederates lost. They weren’t concerned with “State’s rights” as some claim. They wanted the federal government to force Northern states to return escaped slaves after all!!! The new GOP Congress passed a constitutional amendment that would have prevented the abolition of slavery by the federal government. Not good enough for them, they were concerned about not only keeping but spreading slavery to the new states and they didn’t give much of a damn how people in those new states may have felt.

Ron Paul thinks the federal government should have just bought and freed all the slaves. Ha! That Ron Paul. Conventional wisdom is that war was inevitable.

Anyhow as usual I digress. What I wanted to tell you is how ridiculous it is to compare Lincoln to our horrible 20th and 21st Century socialist Presidents. Our first truly terrible President was Woodrow Wilson.

If I had to pick a “worst President” candidate from Lincoln’s period it would have been his immediate predecessor the do nothing Buchanan.


19 posted on 12/23/2011 8:18:24 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: ml/nj
Lincoln was THE worst.

No question. It isn't even a close contest.

32 posted on 12/23/2011 3:56:41 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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