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NDAA, AKA 'Indefinite Citizen Imprisonment w/o Trial Act' is still open to veto
TeaPartyConstitutionalists ^ | 12/24/2011 | Russell Davis publisher of the 'Journal of Constitutional Reset from Virginia'

Posted on 12/25/2011 8:13:13 AM PST by VaConstitution

The 'engrossed' NDAA, AKA 'Indefinite Citizen Imprisonment w/o Trial Act' has apparently not been signed by BHO yet (  http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/pending-legislation   ).  

 The offending portions are still in place.   

 While there is still time, Please ask BHO  to veto the H.R.1540 AKA NDAA & 'Indefinite Citizen Imprisonment w/o Trial Act'   legislation for cause of its provisions not pursuant to our US Constitution in :

"Subtitle D. SEC. 1021 (c)(1)Detention under the law of war without trial until the end of the hostilities authorized by the Authorization for the Use of Military Force"

where covered persons are defined by the administration's assignment of guilty status not by properly sufficient evidence in a proper civilian court of law  - the option to apply that to US Citizens is retained by omission of the exclusion.  See Subtitle D. SEC. 1022 (b)(1)



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KEYWORDS: gulag; policestate; tyranny; veto
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To: WhiskeyX

Thank you, will read the comment to me and the one above carefully. Even if I read legalese/laws etc I’m just as ignorant as I was before. I always needs the dummies’ version.


41 posted on 12/26/2011 6:37:08 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: TheBigJ; sport

I thought exactly as you did and got upset..until I read whiskeyX post #33...its an eye opener.Take a look.


42 posted on 12/26/2011 7:03:16 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: DugwayDuke
You may better defend your person and your rights if you read more carefully. Note the word 'requirement' - The 'option' to detain YOU indefinitely without charge or trial remains.

How To Cope With Your TSA Detention

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Contact BHO at http://www.whitehouse.gov/webform/comment-legislation?billname=H.R.+1540+-+National+Defense+Authorization+Act+for+Fiscal+Year+2012 

View legislation pending a POTUS signature (non-void) at http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/pending-legislation 

View H.R.1540 at ( http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr1540enr/pdf/BILLS-112hr1540enr.pdf  )

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If not vetoed by BHO please ask your Congressmen to enact due amendment.

 

If not vetoed by BHO it may be necessary to promptly attack BHO’s void ab inito standing as POTUS using indictment under state laws and in state courts. If not vetoed this could not safely wait until after BHO is selected as 2012’s POTUS candidate.

If not vetoed by BHO Please take note of "NDAA: RON PAUL IS THE ONLY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WHO GETS IT" and do all that you may to understand why you should support Ron Paul as best as you can.

43 posted on 12/31/2011 3:59:14 AM PST by VaConstitution (“If your law had not been my delight, I would have perished in my affliction” - Psalm 119:92)
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To: VaConstitution; Recovering Ex-hippie; TheBigJ; little jeremiah; Eye of Unk

Well here are some people who in particular look to refute what detractors are saying regarding the abilities of NDAA 2012 to detain US citizens:

http://www.lawfareblog.com/2011/12/ndaa-faq-a-guide-for-the-perplexed/

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2011/12/rest-of-what-senator-levin-said.html

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/11/1044215/-The-Rest-of-What-Levin-Said-on-NDAA-Provisions

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/nt77r/the_14_senators_who_voted_against_ndaa_all_the/c3brs66

This next one is blatantly liberal but since it directly refutes the arguments from Gleen Greenwald, a lawyer who posts at Salon.com which is also hyper liberal, I figured it was worth showing too:

http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/2011/12/indefinitedetentionbs.html

And Marco Rubio, respected as a true defender of US liberty here, gives his defense, just in case you have not already seen it:

http://government.brevardtimes.com/2011/12/senator-marco-rubio-defends-ndaa.html


44 posted on 01/02/2012 5:12:42 PM PST by emax
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To: emax

thanks.


45 posted on 01/02/2012 6:14:09 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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