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Decorated Police Dog Euthanized
wkow.com ^ | January 4, 2012 | Tony Galli

Posted on 01/06/2012 5:43:12 PM PST by chrisinoc

DODGEVILLE (WKOW) -- A decorated police dog that helped officers seize more than $700,000 worth of marijuana one year ago in Iowa County was euthanized, even though the animal had no health issues.

Iowa County Sheriff Steve Michek told 27 News the department's Belgian Malinois named Ava was put down because the animal had become unreliable, especially around the public.

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1 posted on 01/06/2012 5:43:15 PM PST by chrisinoc
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; Shannon; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; ...
WOOOF!

The Doggie Ping list is for FReepers who would like to be notified of threads relating to all things canid. If you would like to join the Doggie Ping Pack (or be unleashed from it), FReemail me.

2 posted on 01/06/2012 5:45:26 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem. meum)
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To: chrisinoc

Working dogs can be dangerous and they cant always be socialized for a non-work environment.


3 posted on 01/06/2012 5:54:44 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

A dog that “becomes” aggressive and unreliable does so for a reason. It just doesn’t happen without a cause. Given the information in the article, it sounds like someone other than the handler was either abusing the dog or causing the dog distress.

Sad that a beautiful dog like that was killed. I’d love to find the person that caused the problem with that dog and give him a taste of karma.


4 posted on 01/06/2012 6:00:42 PM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: BCR #226

I don’t believe in karma as I am a Christian. Dogs can justly be killed by man when they have outlived their usefulness. They are only animals. Only torture of animals is sinful according to the bible. Killing them is OK.


5 posted on 01/06/2012 6:05:32 PM PST by impimp
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To: BCR #226

I’ve got a 9 year old rottie who is in great health, but definitely ‘losing it’ in the mind. Good thing he is very gentle by nature (at 130+lbs), but I’m afraid I might have to put him down even though his body is in pretty good shape..... :-(


6 posted on 01/06/2012 6:05:31 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: chrisinoc

I know several in law enforcement that take these animals and give them a good home, however, the dogs are special and do not socialize, they are not really trained as friend. Pet owners that take them are special.


7 posted on 01/06/2012 6:18:24 PM PST by Fred (No Job No Home No Food No Problem - Obama 2012)
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To: chrisinoc

I know several in law enforcement that take these animals and give them a good home, however, the dogs are special and do not socialize, they are not really trained as friend. Pet owners that take them are special.


8 posted on 01/06/2012 6:18:42 PM PST by Fred (No Job No Home No Food No Problem - Obama 2012)
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To: BCR #226

Of course there is a reason. But that reason isn’t always “abuse”. That has become the mantra these days, to always blame the human, but it’s wrong.

Many dogs turn. Some possibly because of tumors (don’t know if they checked for that), but either way, they can become dangers all on their own. Some can be genetically inclined for this. Not shocking in a (working) Mal.


9 posted on 01/06/2012 6:19:25 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Fred

My a dep sheriff took in his after he was retired. He said some of the drug ones will sometimes form a dependence if the find a large stash and manage to get into it. Worse with coke then other stuff I guess because the dust is more transportable in the air.


10 posted on 01/06/2012 6:35:44 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Fred

My a dep sheriff took in his after he was retired. He said some of the drug ones will sometimes form a dependence if the find a large stash and manage to get into it. Worse with coke then other stuff I guess because the dust is more transportable in the air.


11 posted on 01/06/2012 6:35:56 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: driftdiver

Ever watch the Dog Whisperer? That man can work magic with dogs.


12 posted on 01/06/2012 6:40:00 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
That man can work magic with dogs.

You might want to do a little research on that guy.. the "magic" you don't hear about is usually abuse. Massive abuse. Pretty sad that he has his own show.

Hoss

13 posted on 01/06/2012 6:52:00 PM PST by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

He is awesome!

And as a Pit Bull owner, I so appreciate his cheer-leading for the breed.


14 posted on 01/06/2012 6:56:50 PM PST by mom4melody
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To: reed13k

That’s my theory. The dog became addicted.

Sniffing dope all the time cannot be a good thing.

What do they use to teach them to sniff dope?


15 posted on 01/06/2012 7:06:26 PM PST by Venturer
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To: All
That 700k$ of marijuana must have belonged to the sheriff.

Sad Sad day.

16 posted on 01/06/2012 7:07:45 PM PST by Bailee
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To: RedStateRocker

Get his thyroid checked ~first~ [T4 and Free T4] and then have a full tick panel run on him.


17 posted on 01/06/2012 7:09:59 PM PST by Salamander (I'm your pain.....)
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To: Venturer

My understanding was always watered down dope but i never asked


18 posted on 01/06/2012 7:28:23 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

watch it all the time, takes time and money, something the dept obviously didn’t want to spend.

teach a dog to be anti-social for years and its not going to be a good family dog overnight.


19 posted on 01/06/2012 7:32:42 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: impimp
>"I don’t believe in karma as I am a Christian."

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

Galatians 6:7

20 posted on 01/06/2012 7:41:29 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: HossB86

Where did you hear or read that Cesar Milan abuses animals? I have never heard any rumors about it. He seems to truly love animals. If he is doing that I would like to know about it.


21 posted on 01/06/2012 7:54:09 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Salamander

That was exactly what I was thinking. My first show golden became very dog aggressive and finally I had the sense to have her thyroid checked. It was low, put her on thyroid and within a few weeks she was perfectly normal again (sweet temperament). And sadly (and I think connected) she died a number of years later of what we think was ehrlichiosis. Back then it wasn’t well known that they could carry it for years, Even now most vets apparently don’t know to check.


22 posted on 01/06/2012 8:02:14 PM PST by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: chrisinoc
at least they dint shoot it...
23 posted on 01/06/2012 8:03:06 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: driftdiver

I can’t speak for all of the departments, but when I taught health in TX I used to have some of the narcotics officers bring their dogs into the classroom and demo for the kids (always a big hit). The dogs were fine with the kids, well trained and friendly. They were not trained to attack, they simply were trained to sniff out drugs.


24 posted on 01/06/2012 8:04:46 PM PST by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Yes - but one shouldn’t use scandalous Hindu terms that are tied to false gods.


25 posted on 01/06/2012 8:23:34 PM PST by impimp
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To: impimp
Which false god is karma tied to? (None)

It's just their way of describing the universal undeniable truth of the almighty.

Before you throw stones at the scandalous pagans, you should look at yourself first.

Did you celebrate Nimrods birthday? Did you? Did you even know it?

26 posted on 01/06/2012 8:43:49 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: RedStateRocker

we had a very large rottie/pit mix that developed grand mal seizures unknown etiology at age 7,and 2 times coming out of a seizure he didn’t recognise his family and was very aggressive- growling and circling for a few minutes and our other dog was some form of long haired black belgian (can’t remember the correct name) got protective and there was the possibility of a disaster—now the belgian was also with a temperment problem outside of immediate family,had a “justifiable bite” on the record and unfortunately had to be euthanized due to liver failure,(we don’t know how he got this either) and the mixed breed continued to have his seizures despite many drugs and blood works and maintaining serum levels but was also getting domineering at times and out of place thinking he was the boss.
He had to be euthanised at age 11 due to going in and out of seizures nonstop one night/into the morning.
Let me tell you I was always thinking of what would happen if that dog “lost it” as whatever genetics he was,the muscle tone, energy, strength,teeth and fur were like that of a 2 year old.
both guys were picked up from the street literally at about 5-6 months of age a couple of weeks apart and no one was searching for them.
guess they found us.


27 posted on 01/06/2012 8:46:17 PM PST by catroina54
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To: impimp

I completely disagree. I have less compassion for people than I do dogs. Dogs know something humans have forgotten. Unconditional love. You may think they are only animals and that’s your choice, but I will intervene on behalf of a dog before I’ll intervene on behalf of any adult person. I know dogs very, very well. They are smarter than most people believe and they are rational creatures.


28 posted on 01/06/2012 9:02:23 PM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Who is Nimrod?

Don’t deny the Hindu ties to the word karma. If you deny it one more time I plan to end the conversation.


29 posted on 01/06/2012 9:02:53 PM PST by impimp
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I have been around and raised dogs, specifically big dogs for about 30 years. Every time I’ve seen a dog turn, that’s every time with one exception, it was because of the handler/owner. The only exception to that was a dog that had a brain tumor and became very violent.

I’ve brought more than one dog back from abusive situations and it’s not difficult to do if you just have the patience and LISTEN to what the dog is trying to tell you.

I’m sorry but anyone that puts down a healthy dog needs an @ss whipping bad.


30 posted on 01/06/2012 9:05:56 PM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: BCR #226

“it was because of the handler/owner.”

And sometimes that’s because of wimpy submissiveness by the owners. Unless you want to call that abuse. Which actually, I do. It certainly is neglect and denial of what the dog actually needs.


31 posted on 01/06/2012 9:21:37 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

It’s nonsense. The guy dares to touch animals. That is “abuse” to these ninnies.

PETA-type ninnies don’t want you to even LOOK at your dog the wrong way.

This is what we get when we dumb down “training” to kootchie-koo fatten-’im-up-with-treats. Stern voices, a poke here and there, a pop of the (gasp) choke collar - all “abuse” now thanks to Spock-esque dog training fashions.


32 posted on 01/06/2012 9:27:07 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: reed13k

Now THAT is an interesting idea.


33 posted on 01/06/2012 9:28:57 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: RedStateRocker

This happened to my beagle a few years ago. The vet told me that she was suffering a neurological disorder that was basically canine alzheimers.


34 posted on 01/06/2012 9:38:24 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: the OlLine Rebel
I won't argue with you there. Dogs need and desire a role model. You have to meet their expectations and give them both the love and discipline they desire. Dogs love learning and they want something to do, if they don't get that stimulation, it's no better than putting them in a crate and never interacting with them.

I learned to encourage and guide my dogs to jobs that they discover for themselves. I guide them to positive constructive jobs vs. destructive. My dogs don't get crated, they are part of the family and they know it. We took in a dog that was slated to be destroyed because of the stupidity of the owner. He's still learning social behavior but he's not violent only doesn't understand some things. He's now a very protective and loving dog. Because of what happened to him, it took us a while to get him to interact with our other dogs. Now, he's a strong pack member and he's very happy here. Every night, I take him out in the back yard and let him chase the laser around. He loves it and looks forward to it every night.

Here's a few pics of our dogs...

First is Max with our daughter. He's the nicest dog in the world but if he thinks you're going to hurt her, he'll bring the pain in a hard way. He loves my daughter more than anything in the world. You can kinda tell in the pic...

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Next is our three dogs together getting a treat...

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Sasha, the mutt.

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And the rescue dog I mentioned at the top of my post... Ika.

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35 posted on 01/06/2012 9:40:19 PM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“It’s nonsense. The guy dares to touch animals. That is “abuse” to these ninnies”

Glad to hear it. We have always loved Cesar and we use his methods on our pooches.


36 posted on 01/06/2012 10:16:03 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: brytlea

Ehrlichiosis [and Lyme and every other TBD] can “go dormant” and “hide” in places like bone marrow or the spleen for *years*.

Something stressful....*or* nothing at all, can kick it into active gear and lay out a dog really quick.

One of my Ibizans came here with it as a pup and we never knew until he was 4, his symptoms flaring up right after the matriarch of the pack passed away.
[the local vets had just gotten the life saving SNAP tests]

Heavy, long term medication kicked it into remission and he lived another 10 years, eventually suddenly succumbing to Lyme mediated kidney failure.

My beloved Odin was born with Lyme but was diagnosed at 5 months and 3 months of Doxy wiped it out to the point where his titers are <9, which is considered “clinically insignificant” and as close to “cured” as can be.

Like many Dobes, he’s also hypothyroidal.

He got snotty with the other dogs, growled at me a couple of times and next thing he knew, the “vampires” were drawing his blood to be over-nighted to Dr Jean Dodds.

Tragically, two of his brothers from a previous, identical breeding were put down before they were even 2 years old for “extreme aggression attributed to brain tumors”.
[I kid you not]

I’d bet everything I have that their thyroids were blown out, too.

His is not genetic, not auto-immune; it’s “familial” meaning the bitch was hypo while pregnant and every one of her pups were when they were born.

I know of one of his litter mates who was returned to the breeder “broken” because his owner decided to “beat the aggression out of him”.
[the breeder is total idiot and is still breeding those hypo bitches every year, even though her “heart dog” _dropped dead suddenly_ last summer. that dog was a textbook picture of low thyroid and she disregarded my pleas to get the dog checked]

Odin is constantly monitored, frequently re-tested and meds adjusted and he’s great, now.

I’m sorry about your girl.

I lost my beloved Minny a year before TBDs were even a topic of potential diagnosis for local vets.

The boy who lived to 14 had the same, identical symptoms and cheap pills extended his life dramatically.

She never got that chance and no vet would listen to me.


37 posted on 01/06/2012 10:58:48 PM PST by Salamander (I'm your pain.....)
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To: impimp

Do you celebrate Easter? It’s named for the goddess Oestre. Thats a pagan name for the most significant holiday in the Christian calendar. It’s not the name we use that matters; “a rose by any other name” etc.


38 posted on 01/07/2012 5:01:30 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Where did you hear or read that Cesar Milan abuses animals?

I've heard the same thing about him being rough & abusive and this came from a trainer. If you watch Milan's show, he can be very rough with the dogs. Very. I no longer watch his show. My friend who is a trainer only uses positive reinforcement and gets fabulous results.
39 posted on 01/07/2012 7:05:46 AM PST by Shannon
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To: Shannon

You tube has video out takes of how he actually trains. It is not good. He kicks dogs on the side/underside where the area where the hip and stomach meet. I’ve seen it. Yes, I’ve know some dogs require physical correction. But to leave these clips out of his show is extremely misleading and wrong.

I think he’s a fraud. Just my opinion, though.


40 posted on 01/07/2012 7:11:59 AM PST by rintense
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To: the OlLine Rebel
...a poke here and there, a pop of the (gasp) choke collar - all “abuse” now thanks to Spock-esque dog training fashions.

Keep using that choke chain and some day you might find out what a collapsed trachea is all about.

You can poke and choke your dog all day long if you want but guess what? That produces pain and discomfort. Your methods teach the dog pain/discomfort in response to something he's doing that you don't like. He'll learn to shut off those responses and one day, watch out...those warning signs will be gone and you're at risk of him suddenly "going off" with no warning at all. But hey, that's what you taught him, isn't it?
41 posted on 01/07/2012 7:17:26 AM PST by Shannon
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To: impimp
Only torture of animals is sinful according to the bible. Killing them is OK.

Dude, I hope you don't own any pets. Should you ever feel the urge to get one, go to the Goodwill and get a stuffed animal instead.
42 posted on 01/07/2012 7:20:02 AM PST by Shannon
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To: catroina54
f long haired black belgian (can’t remember the correct name)

That would be a Belgian Groenendael, or Sheepdog as they're called in the States. I currently have two and have owned a total of three in my life. Wonderful dogs. Very smart, and extremely loyal and protective. They are dogs who need mental stimulation, physical work and a strong owner who can work with willful dogs.

Mine are just a joy, love people and most other dogs. But if you even think of harming me, they know it. And will protect. I witnessed it first hand, and it was quite a shock. But was very glad to see it.

In a multi-dog home, it can be difficult to tell the difference between dog aggression and resource guarding. Dogs will resource guard the things that are most valuable to them. It can be a toy, a bed, or even a person. My boy resources guards me, meaning, if I am petting him, he will growl and not let other dogs near me. Of course, I know this, and manage the behavior with positive reinforcement. And he's doing great. My girl will resource me if we sit on the sofa- she will not let my boy in that spot unless she gets up. It's really quite interesting to see their interaction and how they work things out.

And because I've paid close attention to their behavior patterns, its easier to predict behavior in new or high stress situations.

43 posted on 01/07/2012 7:22:49 AM PST by rintense
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To: catroina54
These are my Belgian Sheepdogs:


44 posted on 01/07/2012 7:33:21 AM PST by rintense
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To: Shannon

Give me a break.

First off, I didn’t say they were “my” methods. I said those kinds of (NON-HEAVY-DUTY) behaviors are frowned upon by PC people. Obviously I’m correct. Even though there is HARDLY any “pain” involved, and it only involves a few weeks of training, not a whole lifetime.

I AM definitely Koehler-oriented, and not shy about the choke - but it is not to be “choked”, either.

If you want anecdotes, I’ll tell you I’ve never had a problem with my Koehler-trained GERMAN SHEPHERDS, nor has my sister. No, we’ve not had many dogs, but there you go. They are completely happy, too (never mind we’ve spent $$$$$$$$$ on their myriad allergy issues, including hard labor such as constant bathing), and the dead 1s never “turned” on anyone.

(My current dog has inherent character flaws, but her aggression many years ago involved sudden possessiveness of food, not anything with her choker. She was modified back into good behavior, though I never totally trust her with food.)


45 posted on 01/07/2012 8:42:30 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Shannon

We watch Cesar Milan’s show all the time and I have never seen him do anything with a dog on any show that I would find objectionable. He saves dogs that most trainers would have euthanized. There are lots of ways to train dogs. My Beagle will do anything in the world for a turkey jerky. My chihuahua on the other hand needs a shushing occasionally.


46 posted on 01/07/2012 9:04:05 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: BCR #226

Beautiful dogs.

I’ve never (well, beyond childhood, which doesn’t count and they never worked out) “adopted” an older dog. So I’m not sure how all that would work out. Only pups.

I never understood, since I took over the reins of dogs as a teen (my parents weren’t really “animal” people and they nor my siblings didn’t really get it at all), why so many “nice-nice” people with pets can hardly do anything with their dogs. I took dogs very seriously when I was in high school; after studying a lot for a while we got a “show” GS (LOL). I conditioned and trained her, and between her nature (plain as a puppy) and her up-bringing, she is the most wonderful dog I ever even heard of. No trouble at all. I never understand why people crate up their dogs “when we’re out”, or even at night, or can’t go for walks (well, my current anxious dog IS difficult when she gets anxious about dogs, people, etc), or go for rides. I conditioned my dogs for this. My dogs have the run of the house at all times; I don’t worry about them ruining anything. They’re no trouble. I expect they will be “free”. They need the discipline to understand how to handle freedom.

My next-door neighbors got a Golden last year (sigh). They’re working on an “invisible” fence now, since they have a smallish yard which back butts right up against our front/side. When talking to them the wife mentions how wonderfully calm (LOL, again the anxiety she doesn’t always see) our dog is - no running, no escaping, no barking (per se). This when her still-young dog ran pell-mell to our dog and toddler from their backyard when we opened our garage. She was “grateful” our elder GS wasn’t perturbed by this, etc.


47 posted on 01/07/2012 9:04:24 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“He saves dogs that most trainers would have euthanized.”

And this is what Koehler did. His reaction to people who are scared of the choke chain, e.g., was “they seem more scared of flicking the collar than killing the dog (because he’s ‘incorrigible’).”


48 posted on 01/07/2012 9:34:18 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Sad, but sometimes necessary...


49 posted on 01/07/2012 11:42:59 AM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Very nice. GSD’s are very tolerant dogs and can sense when another dog is being aggressive or just wants to say hi. That’s one of the reasons I love the breed so much. When we lose the next dog, I’ll be adding a King Shepherd to the pack.

the biggest misunderstanding about dogs is that you can’t train their loyalty, you have to earn it. Dogs aren’t stupid, they are very intelligent, it’s us that can’t understand what they want to tell us. Dogs are much better at cross species communication than we are.


50 posted on 01/07/2012 12:55:27 PM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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