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To: devattel; danamco; bushpilot1; Danae
This encyclopedia was funded by a grant from the British crown to compete with the French edition.

Interesting, I did not know that.

So you are saying that there is a difference between the natives vs the naturals?

I'm just asking because this is one part that confuses me....just trying to learn.

91 posted on 02/05/2012 2:14:55 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: bushpilot1

Let me give a hint to the meaning of natural in natural born citizen and why there’s mass confusion.

The meaning is really very simple. Yes it does need citizen parents. Yes they should be born in the US.

Who are the naturals? Who are the natives? Who are the natural children from these naturals.

Remember Vattel used the word the naturels in the 1758 Droit des Gens, the same in the 1773 Droit des Gens.

Natural is a Kind.

Henry the V: “were all thy children kind and natural?”

Everyone.....who are the natural children? This is your clue.

John Jay used the word natural to limit the CINC to a very distinct group of citizenry.

What did natural mean..so long ago.

The answer is right in front you.


95 posted on 02/05/2012 2:40:53 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Las Vegas Ron said:

So you are saying that there is a difference between the natives vs the naturals? I'm just asking because this is one part that confuses me....just trying to learn.

There is a big difference between natural-born citizens and natural-born subjects. Native citizens are not the same as native subjects. A native is natural-born, but not all natural-born children hold the same mark of allegiance nor concept of allegiance.

At the time of the rule of King George, residents were considered settlers. Any child born to settlers was considered to be a natural-born subject. The more natives, the more power the King had. After all, the King enjoyed having as many subjects as possible for the sole purpose of taxation.

151 posted on 02/05/2012 8:50:48 PM PST by devattel
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