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This is the ultimate end of the welfare state. When people get used to sucking at the gov teat, gov gets bigger and bigger and people are less and less able to fend for themselves and we end up like Greece.

We must demolish not only Obamacare but also Medicare, Medicaid and the biggest demon: Social Security. Folks of my generation must right off the money paid into that as losses.

Small gov, low taxes and people learning to fend for themselves -- of course we must help the poor, but it should be personal charity, not gubmint. The Churches need to step back into their role

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The churches seemed to be totally on board with handing over charity to the gummint. After all it freed up the cash they needed to build giant palaces of worship.