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To: LeopoldvonRanke

Gingrich is the conservative, and is one of the most hated conservatives in America, he is the leader that led conservatism between Reagan and Palin, of course the left will keep his negatives high for as long as they can, especially with the help of the GOP-e and Romney.

Santorum, being largely a no one all of his career, does not draw, has not drawn, the attention that a conservative leader does, yet women still don’t like him, and they didn’t when he held office and they kicked him out of it, something that did not happen to Newt.

In a one on one with Obama, Obama easily destroys Santorum in front of the females, he will also lose many males as he is shown as a Milquetoast lawyer type.

Gingrich, in a head to head with Obama can destroy Obama, dismantle him, show his intellectual weakness and shallow grasp of America and history, Gingrich can increase his standing with women when on the same stage as Obama, Santorum cannot.

Polling right now, is different than polling once the candidate becomes the fully backed party leader, we learned this with Reagan, polling is what the moderates always used against him as being too conservative to win in the general.


135 posted on 03/01/2012 12:37:47 PM PST by ansel12 (Newt Gingrich knows how to deconstruct Obama in a head to head race, and that is what it will take.)
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To: ansel12

“Gingrich is the conservative, and is one of the most hated conservatives in America”

And Santorum isn’t? I would surmise that Santorum is far, far more hated by the homosexual lobby for his support of traditional marriage.

“he is the leader that led conservatism between Reagan and Palin”

Uh - no. Sorry. Where was he when he was out of office in 1998? There’s a good 10+ years that Newt was a no show.

“the left will keep his negatives high”

It’s not just the left - Newt’s problem is with Conservative women.

“Santorum, being largely a no one all of his career”

Santorum has been a sitting Senator in a purple state who’s been one of the most outspoken defenders of conservativism.

“does not draw, has not drawn, the attention that a conservative leader”

So you want someone who draws the crowd, attracts attention, etc. Where was Newt from 1998 to 2008? Was he a high draw? I don’t see it. When Santorum was slugging it out, Newt was sitting on the bench. When Newt was soaring, Santorum was slugging it out with him.

“yet women still don’t like him”

Women do like him, and they like him much better than they like Newt.

“they kicked him out of it, something that did not happen to Newt.”

Newt was kicked out as Speaker of the House and resigned. So yes, he didn’t get as far as to lose an election because he quit.

“In a one on one with Obama, Obama easily destroys Santorum”

Santorum has outperformed Newt vs Obama in the head to head, consistantly. Do I need to quote you some polls to show you that this is in fact the case? You are wrong here.

“he will also lose many males as he is shown as a Milquetoast lawyer type.”

I thought he was a neanderthal. Is he a neanderthal or a milquetoast? I’m not sure.

“Gingrich, in a head to head with Obama can destroy Obama”

Not with 65-75 percent unfavourability.

“Gingrich can increase his standing with women when on the same stage as Obama, Santorum cannot.”

When you hit 65-75 percent unfavourability - you are not going to convince these people to switch to you. Newt loses badly vs. Obama.

“polling is what the moderates always used against him as being too conservative to win in the general.”

But you’re using that same polling to dismiss Santorum. I agree with you that we should be looking at state polls, not the national or the head to head vs. Obama. However - Newt has been beaten by Santorum, everywhere except South Carolina.

If Newt really is the better Candidate, why does he struggle to beat Romney outside of the South? He can’t win with just the South, and he certainly can’t win when his state polling has him finishing behind Ron Paul.


138 posted on 03/01/2012 1:01:49 PM PST by LeopoldvonRanke
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