U.S. Agrees To Drug Legalization Talks

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[JustSayNoToNannies]

After you're done "analyzing" that crow Wiley

D'oh! I went off the coincidentally identical number of test subjects. :-(

"D'Souza's team recruited 22 volunteers with no history of schizophrenia. They delivered two dosages of THC intravenously on three occasions and looked for behavioral, cognitive and endocrine changes.

"The dose was equivalent to smoking a half to two marijuana cigarettes.

"Most volunteers on the higher dose reported schizophrenia-like symptoms, which lasted about an hour. They included the classic hallucinations and delusions, and also absence of speech and lack of motivation. They also complained of attention and memory difficulties."

I never heard of anyone hallucinating from smoked marijuana, so again I have to question the real-world applicability of research using injections. But apart from that: so what? Having schizophrenia-like symptoms for an hour is not the same as becoming schizophrenic - and none of the listed symptoms sound like any threat to anyone but the user.

tell the audience how the drug culture of the 1960's had "nothing" to do with this

I never said that. What does it have to do with Chicken-Little-meets-Reefer-Madness hysteria about "brain frying psycho weed"?

[LomanBill]

>>D’oh!

Uhuh. How’s that 1968 flower jackwagon running for ya these days comrade?

[LomanBill]

 "Having schizophrenia-like symptoms for an hour is not the same as becoming schizophrenic - and none of the listed symptoms sound like any threat to anyone but the user. "

 

FAIL.  No reading comprehension points for you.

 

"What the data clearly show are that, if anything, the core symptoms of schizophrenia actually get worse after using cannabis," he said.

 

The results, published in the June issue of the British Journal of Psychiatry, help explain previous findings that people with schizophrenia who smoke marijuana require more hospitalization, respond less well to medication and have more trouble with memory tests.

 

Henquet said therapists have these facts in mind when they advise their mentally ill patients not to get high. Instead, she said, therapists may need to explore the positive effects with their patients and then get them to acknowledge the downside.

 

D'Souza said schizophrenics don't anticipate that after the positive effects of getting high wear off, their hallucinations get worse. "Showing people with schizophrenia this pattern might help them think about [the risks of] using cannabis," he said.

http://www.livescience.com/10700-marijuana-worsens-schizophrenia.html

 

 

 "What is clear, however, is that tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) worsens the positive symptoms of people with established schizophrenia. Dr. D’Souza conducted a study on this question to address the discrepancy between the claims of clinicians and schizophrenia patients. Clinicians claim that schizophrenia patients experience bad outcomes after using cannabis that, at times, necessitates emergency care. But patients claim that they derive symptomatic relief from cannabis—the self- medication hypothesis. “We attempted to test this in the laboratory,” says Dr. D’Souza. “We found that, contrary to the self-medication hypothesis, THC generally worsened symptoms, albeit transiently. ¹ It seems that people with schizophrenia may experience some very short- lived reduction in anxiety from cannabis, but the net effect is that their symptoms tend to worsen.”

http://www.psychweekly.com/aspx/article/articledetail.aspx?articleid=1385

[JustSayNoToNannies]

the core symptoms of schizophrenia actually get worse after using cannabis

FAIL to you for citing a Google results page as your evidence - I correctly analyzed the first link on that page, whereas you're talking about other links on that same page.

The studies you cite have even less to do with your Chicken-Little-meets-Reefer-Madness hysteria about "brain frying psycho weed." If we're going to ban for ALL adults the things that mentally ill people shouldn't do, you might as well check yourself into an asylum right now.

[LomanBill]

>>The studies you cite have even less to do with your Chicken-Little-meets-Reefer-Madness hysteria about "brain frying psycho weed."

Tsk Tsk Comrade Pothead,  common sense is all that's required to observe the self evident Truth regarding the errors rendered by the drug culture of the 60's.  Common sense is all that's required to observe that the cannabis-driven drug culture was a foundational element in the manufacture of idiological subversion that planted a dope-smoking protege of the Weather Underground in the White Hut.

 

 

 

Don't need no Weatherman

to see which way the wind

blws.

 

"Behind the Violence, Says Jane Alpert, Was Sex"

--November 09, 1981--
"The leaders of the Weather Underground, she believes, followed a similar pattern of constantly shifting sexual alliances..."

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20080637,00.html

"He [Bill Ayers] also writes about the Weathermen's sexual experimentation as they tried to 'smash monogamy.' The Weathermen were 'an army of lovers,' he says, and describes having had different sexual partners, including his best male friend."

Source: New York Times, September 11, 2001: "No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen"
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

"...the Weathermen, when not engaged in group sex, committed such revolutionary acts as parading with a Viet Cong flag through a local park on Independence Day and spray-painting the walls of a high school with the slogans, "Off the Pigs," "Viet Cong Will Win," and "F#$k U.S. Imperialism."..."

Campus Wars: The Peace Movement At American State Universities in the Vietnam Era

 

"What happens next bears watching closely, as does the response of the president, ex-Speaker Pelosi, and others on the left.  Encouraged by leftists in the Democratic Party and funded by left-leaning nonprofit organizations and celebrity contributors, Occupy Wall Street may in time morph into something resembling the radical factions of the late 1960s and 1970s."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/10/predicting_the_weatherman.html

The Osawatomie Coincidence

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2818309/posts

[JustSayNoToNannies]

The studies you cite have even less to do with your Chicken-Little-meets-Reefer-Madness hysteria about "brain frying psycho weed."

Tsk Tsk Comrade Pothead, common sense is all that's required to observe the self evident Truth regarding the errors rendered by the drug culture of the 60's. Common sense is all that's required to observe that the cannabis-driven drug culture was a foundational element in the manufacture of idiological subversion that planted a dope-smoking protege of the Weather Underground in the White Hut.

And now you're no longer even pretending to try to support your Chicken-Little-meets-Reefer-Madness hysteria about "brain frying psycho weed." I'll take that as an implicit retraction.

[LomanBill]

>>I’ll take that as an implicit retraction.

FAIL, Comrade Pothead.

Again, common sense is all that’s required to observe that the cannabis-driven drug culture was a foundational element in the manufacture of ideological subversion that planted a dope-smoking protege of the Weather Underground in the White Hut.

That’s not a retraction, it’s an assertion of undeniable fact.

[JustSayNoToNannies]

That’s not a retraction

Then where's your evidence to support your Chicken-Little-meets-Reefer-Madness hysteria about "brain frying psycho weed"? Statements about ideological subversion are irrelevant to your Chicken-Little-meets-Reefer-Madness hysteria about "brain frying psycho weed."

[LomanBill]

Common Sense, Comrade Pothead.