Posted on 03/05/2012 10:38:29 AM PST by Scoutmaster
Thanks so much for the explanation. Sounds to me like she included herself among those who are paying an average of $1000 a year for birth control. Were I her, I would not want to parse this sentence in a court of law.
Her testimony(was it under oath?) was very slimy and dishonest. She testified that she represented other woman who were not identified and had not authorized her to speak for them. The stories she made up could never be verified. She also said female undergraduates were suffering financially and in other ways because they could not afford contraception. She said the cost of contraception for a law school student was $1000 per year or $3000 for the time in law school. Condoms cost less than $1 each, birth control pills are available for $9 per month. Tuition at Georgetown Law is over $20,000 per semester.
None of the articles talked about the specifics of her testimony.
Can someone get a list of Rush's sponsors who quit his show because of this? Someone should get the names and the contact information. Someone should draft a sample letter to send to them telling them how strongly we resent their cowardly political correctness and how we will NEVER use any of their products ever again and we will tell our friends not to buy their products.
The leftist MSM should not have the power to force sponsors to quit. We should tell these sponsors that they will pay a price for their cowardice.
We have the winning answer. I hope she does sue Rush. Rush has the money to hire the best lawyers and discovery would destroy Fluke and also bring to light that in all probability she is working hand in glove with the DNC or other Democrat organizations.
Stephanopolus started this whole issue when he asked Sanatorium about contraception. The whole purpose of this was to create a fire storm of controversy and news that would get the subject off the fact that our economy under Obama really sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wondering whether Fluke will sue Limbaugh for defamation or libel.
You are kidding right?
She is a political operative that has gotten what she wanted. She has served her purpose.
To sue would mean that she would have to prove that being called a slut was libel. Somehow I doubt she wants to go there.
It's not an opinion when Rush says "Sandra Fluke said she was have to much sex . . . " That's a statement of fact by Rush. The 'slut' thing is the least of Limbaugh's worries. He made dozens and dozens of specific 'factual' statements about what Fluke said . . . and Fluke didn't say any of those things.
truth is a defense to libel or slander
Well, yeah. Which is why Rush would clearly be in trouble if Fluke weren't a limited public figure. Because Rush made up all of those thing he claimed that Fluke said, and presented as fact as her statements.
The suit wouldn't be about whether she was a slut, it would be about whether she claimed she was having all of this sex and wanted to be paid for it. Did she make those claims? No, she did not. She never mentioned her own sex life a single time. Or her own contraception. Rush made all of that stuff up.
Let him/her/whatever buy condoms....Bunch of over educated dummies..It's more about disease than pregnancy. Stop spreading diseases...you've turned our nation into a bunch of _ _ _ _ _.
Rush was extrapolating, not quoting. But his words were rude.
On the other hand, destroying her in court might win the lawsuit, but alienate women to Rush and conservatives. Surely the MSM would just portray it like attacking a rape victim as ‘asking for it’. This whole thing is a mess and distracts from the real issue of religious freedom.
No it did not.
First, she never mentioned her tuition or the amount of her tuition.
Second, she never mentioned what she paid for her birth control.
Third, she never said whether she was on birth control or paying for it at all.
Fourth, she didn't give testimony. She wasn't sworn.
Would you like to read her statement and come back and play another round?
Ms. Fluke was the Fran Kandel Public Interest Grant Recipient of the Women Lawyers Association of Los Angeles, for "projects that make governmental and social institutions and agencies more accessible and responsive to members of society whose interests are not otherwise adequately recognized or asserted."
Nobody has yet established that Ms Fluke needs contraception.
In view of the volatility of the issue that she was testifying about, doesn’t that immediately make her a public figure?
It would never get that far. The suit would be settled.
But count me among those who think she won't sue. All this talk about suing is just fanning the flames to keep a controversy alive.
If what you say is true, she has even LESS credibility than I thought. It's like Jessica Lange giving testimony about how hard it is for farmers.
Rush said what he said on his radio show and then he fully apologized on his radio show.
That would be taken into account it if came to damages and probably won’t gain her a large settlement either.
He did. Multiple times. For example:
What does it say about the college coed Susan Fluke [sic], who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says that she must be paid to have sex? What does that make her? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute. She wants to be paid to have sex.
But forget about calling her a slut. Given that Fluke never discussed her own sex life or contraception, what was the basis for this statement by Limbaugh: Sandra Fluke is
"a woman who is happily presenting herself as an immoral, baseless, no-purpose-to-her life woman. She wants all the sex in the world whenever she wants it, all the time, no consequences. No responsibility for her behavior."
Immoral, baseless, no-purpose-to-her life? Fluke never described her own life. Fluke never said she wanted 'all the sex in the world.'
Rush didn't just miss the bulls-eye on this on, or the target. He missed the wall and the dart hit the floor.
Click on the link to see the prices of many birth control pills. They are actually cheap. And if you are broke Planned parenthood will give them out at even cheaper prices. Prices of Birth Control Pills
They will just have Eric Holder sic his lefty lawyer attack dogs on him.
They are just playing into the hands of the media, however, since the world today is so twisted, it would not be far fetched to believe both sides are playing the middle for dough. That should be miserable prospect, but not too unlikely given todays growing uneducated populace.
Thank you for a rational discussion of this whole mess. Everyone who wants to continue this debate needs to read her testimony. It is only a few pages long. Rush went way out on a slender branch here and has handed all sorts of live ammunition to the leftist enemy. There is also background showing she is a longtime womens’ issues activist, is about 30 years old and enrolled to challenge the school health care policy. Those would have been better arguments to use. The name calling aids the left and will peel off some who don’t thoroughly research the issues.
Yes. That's what was ridiculous. That's what Rush should have had a field day with. And that's why she wasn't permitted to testify before Congress.
Instead, she was allowed to give a statement in front of a bunch of Democrats. And the ever-willing media covered it as if she were testifying before Congress. She wasn't under oath.
So. Think about it. She was there as an 'expert' on the topic of medical reasons why women needed birth control pills but were being denied them because 'contraception' wasn't covered by a health plan for religious reasons. It was a carefully written presentation that dealt with all of the outlier medical situations, and evil insurance companies interviewing women with medical conditions and physician orders, and deciding not to provide care because the insurer thought the woman just wanted the birth control pill so she could have sex.
That kind of nauseating Democrat story for the public.
But . . . it wasn't about having lots of sex at all. By Fluke or anyone else. It was about medical conditions that required the pill and evil healthcare plans denying it.
And Rush turned it into testimony about having lots of sex (wrong) by Fluke (who never mentioned her own sex life or use of contraception).
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