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To: csd

Let’s not forget that the Constitution is a compact between the states. The federal govt that it creates is a derivative of their existence, not the other way around, and comes from limited and certain powers ceded by the States in order to form a Union that allow us to function as a nation.

If we fought the Civil War in part to make the point that states cannot leave this constitutional Union through secession, I would say that the opposite is also true. That is, the federal govt cannot divorce the Union from us and end our Constitutional govt. Only the States can do that through a constitutional convention.

Unless elected in November, on January 21, 2013, President Obama is no longer President. The office is vacant. Should he attempt to hold that seat of power, his claim to such is illegal and nonexistent, and he a unlawful usurper. No citizen, bureaucrat, public official, or member of the armed forces has any obligation to follow him or execute his directives.

Anyone who does so would at best be considered a foreign invading power, and at worst a domestic terrorist who should be afforded no protections. Anyone would be within their rights to shoot that person on sight, without trial, and with extreme prejudice, pure and simple.

So if Zero wants to go down this road, let him. We’ll see how long he can hold it together with over 300 million guns in this country.


23 posted on 03/17/2012 7:24:16 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: Free Vulcan

The Constitution has already been abandoned. Panetta told the Senate as much this week. Under the guise of national security, he said, the President need only consult the UN, NATO and world leaders to fight a war against Syria and may, or may not, inform Congress.

The first Ten Amendments are being abandoned. Gone is religious freedom (Obamacare vs. Catholics), right to assemble peacefully is gone if secret service is present (HR 347), the right to a speedy trial after arrest and citizens deemed to be enemies of the state can already be killed or detained indefinitely without a trial(NDAA).

Amerika suffered a Marxist coup in November 2008.


47 posted on 03/17/2012 8:28:47 PM PDT by charlie72
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