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To: yooper

You all cannot defend this man on grains of straw. He is a prime example of the outlier vis a vis that liberals throw in our faces to justify their attempts to take our guns. Zimmerman is guilty, and your posts here trying to find SOME justification for his actions only serve to embarrass our claims to our gun rights. So stop it and call it like it is.


18 posted on 04/13/2012 2:41:56 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: yooper

“You all cannot defend this man on grains of straw”

Since when does straw have grains?

“Zimmerman is guilty, and your posts here trying to find SOME justification for his actions only serve to embarrass our claims to our gun rights”

This may be something you think only liberals say, but in this country you are innocent until proven guilty. So it’s not us who need to find some justification for his actions; it’s you who have to rest on evidence stronger than your feeling that he’s overzealous and the “directive” by an operator who had no directive authority and which we don’t whether he obeyed or not.

You need actual evidence, along the lines of proving he instigated the witnessed violence, he had malice aforethought, he was not in reasonable fear for his life, and he wasn’t acting with force to prevent a felony, etc. None of this evidence exists. What you thought was the more solid and common sense position is actually a willow-the-wisp of feelings and non-evidence.


30 posted on 04/13/2012 2:53:03 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: yooper

I guess you forgot Zimmerman’s broken nose. gashed head and the fact that his KelTec malfunctioned. The way it malfunctioned is possibly due to the two men struggling for the weapon. As someone licensed for CC, Zimmerman would have known he was not allowed to expose or brandish the weapon.

If the firearm had jammed, I might be more lenient on Martin. But given the neighbor’s statement that he saw a larger man beating Zimmerman while he was defenseless on his back and reviewing the other information proven to have been posted by Martin, anyone who thinks Martin was some innocent is missing an important window into his life and thought.

The long amount of time that elapsed between Martin leaving the 7 Eleven and the time before he aroused Zimmerman’s suspicions shows Martin was in no hurry to get back to the house even though it was raining. He should have already been home at least 30 minutes before Zimmerman returned from work.

What we know from the 911 tapes syncs with Zimmerman’s supposed statement. Martin;s actions as an innocent on the other hand do not fit.

If any of this peaks your curiosity, look up the knockdown game as played by urban black youth.


37 posted on 04/13/2012 3:10:17 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: yooper

Did you EVER listen to the 911 tape while it was up? You should have.


60 posted on 04/13/2012 4:51:56 PM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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