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To go or not to go? (Graduate School advice needed)
Blackshark | 6/11/2012 | Blackshark

Posted on 06/11/2012 1:12:29 PM PDT by Black_Shark

Hey all,

Need some advice from those who have experience in this area: Is it worth taking out $41,000 in Direct Stafford Unsubsidized loans (Looking at ~ $45k after interest for 2 years) for a Master's of Science in Economics with a Master's Minor in Statistics at North Carolina State University?

Some background: I obtained my B.S. in Economics (Cum Laude) with an overall GPA of 3.364 and a major GPA of 3.6 in May 2012. Can't find a decent job so far and am currently retaking all of my calcs (I-III) that I took way back when in undergraduate in preparation for the advanced mathematics that my chosen Masters requires. I am doing this while actively looking for entry-level analyst jobs all over the USA.

If I obtain a job, I plan on taking it and starting my career. If this does not happen, Plan B is to stay in Graduate School and pray that the economy improves enough to allow me to capture that elusive first job.

Opinions? Advice? I recognize that I will need a Masters at some point in my life but is now the proper time to acquire it? Is it worth attending graduate school rather than applying for some entry level walmart job while looking for a job in my field? Please, keep this thread on the topic of advice and opinions that are helpful rather than bashing the Education industry.

Thanks all!

- Blackshark


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To: Black_Shark

That’s a bit trickier and makes it harder to compete. We get a fair number of stat types applying for openings in my little piece of the world - market research. It’s very cometitive. It helps to know SAS, R, and SQL since a lot of the openings list these as desirable if not mandatory


61 posted on 06/11/2012 2:27:28 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Black_Shark

Check with jr college level? I think some states have lesser requirements for past high school as far as what is required. Would you relocate to a neighboring state?


62 posted on 06/11/2012 2:31:03 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: superfries

This is something I’ve planned on doing for a while. If I weren’t in a job I love with a great company(and really good pay) I would do it tomorrow. I’ve been through so many mergers and buy-outs, that I’ve had everything in place for some years now to flip the switch and do it myself the next day if I ever get my notice. The good news is, through all the mergers, I’m the one person in my department who has survived them all.


63 posted on 06/11/2012 2:32:30 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: from occupied ga

I know a good deal of SAS ( econometrically speaking) but R is a PITA. Tried learning it on my own and about threw my computer out the window!

Not familiar with SQL but I have applied to jobs who prefer those who are familiar with it. NCSU doesn’t use it and I’m assuming it has a high 4, low 5 figure liscensing fee?


64 posted on 06/11/2012 2:35:18 PM PDT by Black_Shark
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To: NEMDF

Of course. Haven’t really looked into other states at the CC level. Will look into that.


65 posted on 06/11/2012 2:36:56 PM PDT by Black_Shark
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To: Black_Shark

If your particular field does better with a Masters and you are unable to locate a decent job in your field of expertise, then I would suggest taking the task of your masters degree on.

Most colleges I know of help with getting you internships whether paid or unpaid. Take them! This I can’t stress enough. Intern jobs will open a field of opportunities for you. When future companies take a look at your resume, they want to see that you’ve at least worked in the field you are seeking. Internships are great for this part of your resume.

My son just graduated this year as well. Luckily he had/has a job waiting for him since the end of April. He starts in July. He will actually be coming to your neck of the woods for this opportunity for 6 months training and then come back to New England to be placed in 1 of 2 facilities in the area. He also graduated Cum Laude and had over 1 year of an internship with Blue Cross Blue Shield.

I do believe we’ve talked before? I think I remember your name! Congratulations on your excellent achievement graduating with honors!


66 posted on 06/11/2012 2:57:29 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: Black_Shark

You would do better to focus on statistics. There are uses for it in many fields besides economics.


67 posted on 06/11/2012 3:09:33 PM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: Black_Shark

have you been working? Maybe you should look at the real world and see what you can do with your skills, before you take on debt. Try looking at Dave Ramsey ( radio and books) for some money advice.


68 posted on 06/11/2012 3:18:13 PM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: Black_Shark

I can’t give advice in this area, but I pray you’ll find the right answer, God’s direction for your life, and have a very strong, flame protective suit on. You’re very brave asking for advice on FR.


69 posted on 06/11/2012 3:34:25 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: 9YearLurker
My guess is you’d be more employable with a MS in statistics.

The odds of that are about 40-40...

70 posted on 06/11/2012 3:37:43 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Black_Shark
Don't discard the military option. In many instances they will send you back for advanced work at a cost of additional service time. If you are woking in your field, you may find yourself working with the lastest and greatest equipment.

I funded my son's undergraduate work and when he wanted to go for a masters I allowed as how I would continue a food subsidy (he was also a weightlifter) but he had the military or a Teaching Assistant. That was the route he took, didn't really like the TA job, but later moved to a Research Assistant position.

Mel

71 posted on 06/11/2012 3:52:54 PM PDT by grwcfl537 (Sed libera nos a malo.)
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To: Black_Shark

agree about R. Many flavors of SQL some expensive some not - all work about the same. It has been the main corporate data warehousing solution for years. Walmart, Verizon, AT&T,etc. Should be easy to read up enough to get past an interview if you don’t claim to be an expert. The basics aren’t all that difficult.


72 posted on 06/11/2012 5:07:42 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: mnehring
"The good news is, through all the mergers, I’m the one person in my department who has survived them all."

Work flows to the competent. The trick is to get some of the pay and promotions too.

73 posted on 06/11/2012 6:40:18 PM PDT by Paladin2
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