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To: prairiebreeze; All
As for me, I will take Ronald Reagan's wise advice in your tagline.

I see that:

1. Obama is so loathed by Americans, including Democrats, that his approval numbers are downright pathetic, which means that this election, he will not get remotely as many votes as he did the last time; many former Obama voters will either not vote or will vote third party.

2. Romney has an established record of actively advancing and promoting the FIVE major liberal agendas of global warming, government-run health care, the homosexual agenda, activist judges, and abortion, and has governned always like a liberal Democrat. He remains proud of RomneyCare, is all for the global warming agenda of restricting and regulating food and energy production and kow-towing to a global "solution rather than an American one" (his CPAC speech of '08), and the "right" of homosexuals to adopt children, more accurately, the government's right to force adoption agencies to cooperate.

I see that this election, by the grace of God, is such that circumstances greatly favor a very low vote turnout for Obama, which means that a deliberate attempt by conservatives to split the vote at the top of the ticket by voting third party and rejecting liberal statist Romney would have an excellent chance of making it so whichever guy wins regardless of the electoral college count, Obama or Romney, enters office on a plurality of a little more than one third of the popular vote -- opposed by nearly two out of every three voters. THAT would be good for conservatives no matter which amoral statist, Romney or Obama, won.

Two potential disasters still lurk:

1. Democrats crawfish and nominate someone other than Obama before November, a "blank slate" on whom Democrats could project all the new "hope and change" they wanted.

2. Romney winning by a landslide, which would not only silence conservative Republicans and opposition to liberalism for the forseeable future, but strengthen moderate Republicans and ensure the advance of authoritarian amoral statism as consistently promoted by Romney.

My priorities at this point are not ABO, because a plurality win in the 38 - 40% range would make him a mockery, but to prevent Romney from winning in a landslide. I'm not afraid to see what I see -- whereas ABOers are terrified not only of Obama, but of looking eye-to-eye at what Romney truly portends.

439 posted on 06/21/2012 2:12:05 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Finny

Since you responded politely, I will answer a couple of your points.

Obama has not only most of the media, he has the dead vote, the dog vote, the duplicate voter-roll vote, the dirty-trick Chicago-style vote and every other kind of fraud imaginable, and he’s not afraid to use them. So unless he fully implodes before November, I’m not certain I’d count on less voter turnout as a padding, particularly with the black vote firmly in his pocket and the 65% of Latino’s consistently polling for Obama.

Certainly I believe there are horrified (or at least disgruntled) Obama voters who won’t vote again for him, but to what actual number, we won’t know until after Nov. 6.

If enough conservatives do as you suggest and not vote, I think that might add up to some damage for the Romney effort. At what point does Romney need that base vote to win?? And are you willing to be part of the effort that ends up in his defeat?

God forgive me if I need forgiving on this, but I just can’t stand by and waste my opportunity to help get rid of BHO. And yes, I’m sick and tired of holding my nose and voting for moderate republicans.

I do understand your viewpoints and I appreciate your post. I also share many of your concerns. Could even a republican majority in both Chambers stop a steam-rolling, hell-bent 2nd term Obama, though? I’m not so sure.


461 posted on 06/21/2012 5:05:22 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Finny
Romney winning by a landslide, which would not only silence conservative Republicans and opposition to liberalism for the foreseeable future, but strengthen moderate Republicans and ensure the advance of authoritarian amoral statism as consistently promoted by Romney.

You are so right, unfortunately. Obama has so called, “men”, so afraid of him, they will ruin the country for their kids and grand kids because they are electing a socialist who no one can stand, but is a little less worse than obama. The fear that obama has put in their hearts is palpable. They give him power when they fear him that much. It's exactly what Nancy, and all the left does; scare their voters into doing what they want them to do. The gop and romney and all his people in the media have been successful in brainwashing these people into being voting for the man THEY want; a man no one likes and they can't even see that they are being used. If you can put enough fear in people's heart, you control them. Isn't that a communist principal?

If someone told me a year ago that conservatives would settle for a proabortion, progay marriage, progay adoption, tax & cap, global warming, cheat, liar and thief, I would not have believe it. Fear is a strong emotion and can make a man grown man wet his pants; apparently. What would have happened if good men were too afraid to stand up to the British or to Hitler? We might be speaking German.

I know for a fact that some of these people, some who have been on FR a while, are working the romney campaign. I was up really late one night; most people had dropped out. There was three or four guy posting. One was really excited, like a little kid seeing a movie star, saying just how exciting it was to actually talk to someone who was working with romney. He said something like, can you imagine what it would be like in closed door meeting with him. Something like that. I think, these people really think he's god. I know, they will cry mormon hater. Being a victim is so obama, sharpton, jackson. Do they really want mormon's behind those names?

493 posted on 06/21/2012 8:46:07 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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