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To: Mark Landsbaum

While I am realistic, I really hate these defeatist articles. Why even try then? Is that the message? Or is it just bitching for the sake of bitching? We have to fight and keep the pressure on, period. Or else we will end up in a Socialist Hellhole with 100% taxes on “the rich” (meaning everyone who isn’t living off the public teet) and stagnant growth.


11 posted on 07/09/2012 2:32:30 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

It is bitching for the sake of bitching.


12 posted on 07/09/2012 2:35:27 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Haven’t you noticed? FR has become a clearinghouse for whining and complaining. No backbone allowed.


17 posted on 07/09/2012 3:32:49 PM PDT by tatown ( FUMD, FUAC, and FUGB)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
While I am realistic, I really hate these defeatist articles. Why even try then? Is that the message? Or is it just bitching for the sake of bitching? We have to fight and keep the pressure on, period. Or else we will end up in a Socialist Hellhole with 100% taxes on “the rich” (meaning everyone who isn’t living off the public teet) and stagnant growth.

defeatist articles?? Nope, just facing cold reality.

It is very hard to objective view reality at times. I can't think of a society that was once free, that then transitions to a massive welfare/socialistic system, stop and start moving back towards Liberty (in a peaceful manner)?

I can't name one, can you?

The Federal leviathan is moving towards eventual collapse and there is nothing we can do to stop it. The inertia is too strong at this point.

I believe there are only two ways out: (1) is a total, absolute collapse or (2) Enough States develop leadership that move to legally and Constitutional roll back all unconstitutional functions of government.

No society "transitions" from Socialism to Freedom. Those in power never allow that to happen. When and if the States move to severely rollback the Federal government, to be successful it must be done in short order and in a sweeping manner.

For example, the EPA would be eliminated, all employees fired and their pensions revoked. All Federal buildings previously containing the EPA must be sold into private hands. It is only proper that the evil political class and the sadistic parasites they hire to tortures face the reality of the damage they have done to our Liberties and our Happiness.

This process would be repeated across most other departments.

A number of other steps must be taken, among them: repeal of the 17th Amendment, followed by the 16th amendment.

Realistically, none of this will likely happen. Our Founders all wrote of the nature of government -- as a necessary EVIL. It will soon (within 10 years) be an intolerable one.

Jefferson was correct when he wrote in 1788,

The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield, and government to gain ground.

18 posted on 07/09/2012 4:14:13 PM PDT by sand88
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