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Why Virgil Goode matters to Mitt Romney's presidential chances
July 14, 2012 | techno

Posted on 07/13/2012 9:00:22 PM PDT by techno

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To: gusty; fieldmarshaldj
No, non-looneytune logic. A vote for a candidate that will receive under 1% of the vote is a vote for a Communist.

If you live in WA, OR, CA, MN, IL, NY, NJ, CT, DE, MD, DC, VT, MA, Maine, Hawaii, a vote for Romney -- who won't receive first-place #s in those states -- is a sure vote for a loser in those states. (Remember, unlike other roles, a candidate doesn't win by popular vote; he wins by electoral vote...a state-by-state vote).

Sorry, Gusty. But second-place only counts in horseracing!

Therefore, all, Gusty might be consistent here ... IF he would tell all you voters in the above states that it's "looneytune logic" for you voters in those states to go ahead and vote for a loser (Romney).

141 posted on 07/14/2012 8:36:23 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Yes, making the vote overwhelming for Obama in those states allows the dem vote counting scams to place more democrats in Congress ... if Obama wins by a large margin int hose states, there is no grounds upon which to question a higher dem vote for the dem candidates down ticket. But hatred for the liberal Milt doesn’t stop folks from pushing the ‘finny’ logic apparently overwhelming the minds of Romney haters. Why shucks, if you get this meme loud enough you might even have an effect in close states where the dems need it close so they can cheat for the win. Aren’t you so proud of your ‘finny’ sycophancy?


142 posted on 07/14/2012 8:41:18 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Actually, not in context, EV.

How would balancing the budget happen most quickly. That’s what he’s spelled out.

At no place do you find Goode saying, “I believe in welfare queens ripping off the system.”

What he does say is that with wars drawing down that there is no reason to keep the military funded at the same level. That’s only common sense. It wasn’t funded at wartime levels prior to the war.

However, he clearly says it should be the best military in the world.

I’m a veteran and a retiree, EV. I know the military.


143 posted on 07/14/2012 8:46:50 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: gusty; fieldmarshaldj
No, non-looneytune logic. A vote for a candidate that will receive under 1% of the vote is a vote for a Communist.

Romney's religious track-record re: Communism...see the last column to the right below...and then realize that Romney says he is "faithful" to the faith of his forefathers in the faith!

GOV. Romney Mormon 'scripture' & History Sources Quotes
ObamaCare based upon RomneyCare [SoConPubbie has posted some threads the week of April 16, 2012 along these lines]. In addition, what about Romney's $50 taxpayer-subsidized abortions -- and some $0 abortions -- he permanently imposed a Planned Parenthood rep into supervision of RomneyCare? (Since he vetoed other portions of that legislation, the Planned Parenthood rep section was also something he could have vetoed). For all of the pro-abortion damage done by Romney in the Bay State, see: RomneyCare Now Funding FREE Abortions: A Disqualifier for Mitt Romney’s Candidacy [Enabler Mitt] Mitt's Mormonism embraced socialism/communism under the 'United Order' – sacred commands still on the Mormon “scriptures” – depicted to be “everlasting” commandments of the Mormon god The Mormon socialistic/communistic “everlasting” nature of the “United Order” depicted in Lds “scriptures” – Doctrine & Covenants 82:18-19 and 104:1, 48, 53. Even Lds author George Givens described Brigham Young’s communist-built community of Orderville, Utah as “pure communism”: "When Brigham Young established Orderville and similar United Orders, John Taylor was less than enthusiastic. He realized that enterprises such as Orderville were pure communism and not the law of consecration. He made this plain after he became President, when in 1882 he sent an epistle to all authorities of the Church in which he bluntly stated: 'We had no example of the 'United Order' in accordance with the word of God on the subject...Our relations with the world and our own imperfections prevent the establishment of this system [i.e. the system of consecration and stewardship spoken of at times as the 'United Order'] at the present time, as was stated by Joseph in an early day, it cannot yet be carried out.'" (George W. Givens, 500 More Little-Known Facts in Mormon History, 2004, p. 169)"One of the most famous utopian books ever written was Looking Backward by Edward Bellamy, published in 1889. Some scholars believe Looking Backward had considerable influence in the making of Lenin's Soviet Russia. If this is true, then [ensuing Lds "prophet"] Lorenzo Snow and the Latter-day Saints must receive some of the credit--or blame. Hearing of the success of the United Order in Brigham City, Edward Bellamy made a special trip to Utah in 1886 to study its operation. There he spent three days with Lorenzo Snow, Brigham City's founder and forty-year resident. Impressed with the thirty to forty industries run by its 2,000 inhabitants and the vitality at that time of one of the most successful United Orders, Bellamy returned home and wrote his influential book." (500 More Little-Known Facts in Mormon History, p. 185). Way to go, 19th century Mormon leader-“prophets” of Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, John Taylor & Lorenzo Snow!!! They all unwittingly fueled Soviet Communism!
What about Marion G. Romney, cousin to Mitt's father? Who was he in Lds hierarchy? (Title: 'President' - Top 3 of church as 2nd counselor to both #11 & #12 Lds 'prophets') (Things As They Really Are, p. 73). Cited in official Lds publication, Search the Commandments: Melchizedek Priesthood Personal Study Guide, pp. 275-276 (1984) "Elder Neal A. Maxwell has said: 'Following the living prophets is something that must be done in all seasons and circumstances. We must be like President Marion G. Romney, who humbly said, '..I have never hesitated to follow the counsel of the Authorities of the Church even though it crossed my social, professional, and political life' (Conference Report, April 1941, p. 123). There are, or will be moments when prophetic declarations collide with our pride or our seeming personal interests...Do I believe in the living prophet even when he speaks on matters affecting me and my specialty directly? Or do I stop sustaining the prophet when his words fall in my territory? if the latter, the prophet is without honor in our country!

"I believe in my Mormon faith and I endeavor to live by it. My faith is the faith of my fathers - I will be true to them and to my beliefs." - Mitt Romney

Source: Transcript: Mitt Romney's Faith Speech
144 posted on 07/14/2012 8:54:47 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: xzins

He has made it very clear that he has no intention of touching the major “entitlements.” It’s on his website still. I just went and looked. “We must preserve and protect Social Security.” (http://www.goodeforpresident2012.com/the-issues.html)

As for me, I can’t put my finger on the enumerated constitutional power for those programs. Can you?

Don’t close your eyes to who Mr. Goode has allied himself to when it comes to foreign policy. They are overwhelmingly extreme isolationists, and want to drop Israel like a rock.


145 posted on 07/14/2012 9:02:26 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (If you've surrendered your principles out of fear of Obama, Obama has already won. TomHoefling.com)
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To: xzins
Goode on National Defense: We need a strong national defense. However, reckless federal spending which has given us a deficit in excess of one trillion dollars necessitates cutting defense spending. We must now come home from Afghanistan and reduce our expenditures around the globe.
146 posted on 07/14/2012 9:06:37 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (If you've surrendered your principles out of fear of Obama, Obama has already won. TomHoefling.com)
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To: SoConPubbie
Losing an election is not the worst thing. Losing every election is.

Conservatism is slip, sliding away. You have to move the pile, even a bit, in the opposite direction for future nominees.

147 posted on 07/14/2012 9:06:49 AM PDT by ex-snook (without forgiveness there is no Christianity)
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To: xzins

In reference to my last post:

Goode thinks defense spending has caused our deficits, and that therefore cutting it is the path to a balanced budget.

I strongly disagree. The primary cause of our deficits is unconstitutional spending on programs and agencies that lie outside the enumerated powers.

The exact agencies and programs Congressman Goode considers to be sacrosanct.


148 posted on 07/14/2012 9:18:27 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (If you've surrendered your principles out of fear of Obama, Obama has already won. TomHoefling.com)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
I’m no turd-party clown. I think voting that way is the height of Onanism - it means forsaking the country solely for the pursuit of one’s own pleasure.

(Instead, you'd rather sleep with somebody who STILL embraces giving her offspring to "research"...and carries the power to reinforce that for others...)

Who is culpable -- besides the GoP-e -- for giving us Romney to begin with?

...This whole thing is kind of like a relative coming to you and asking if you approve of the guy she's chosen for marriage...

...You frankly, repeatedly, with full reasons why -- including a careful background search of the guy -- tell the female relative, "No, he's not the right guy for you."

...Then guess what happens?

Surprise, surprise! The "marriage" doesn't last very long...

But guess who the ex-bride will blame for the "marriage" not working out???

Yup...'twas your fault...

Tho you tried & tried & tried to warn her that it wouldn't proceed very far, she just wouldn't listen...

And what is almost as bad -- the ex-bride's family & friends temporarily rallied behind her to extol this guy to the world as being a true "catch"...They hid from the world all the horrible things they knew about him, and became apologists for him re: the trail of aborted babies he left behind in previous relationships...

And now the ex-bride's reputation for life is forever linked with this sorest apology of a guy (let alone not living up to the "god in embryo" he is touted to be)...And these cheerleaders-from-hell who endorsed the bridegroom...the ones who would betray the womb...betray the cause against socialism?

Why, they've become -- with it growing daily -- marginalized. Silenced.

Their vocal chords & keyboards vs. socialism & abortion & liberalism have been "traded in."

They are like Esau of the Bible, who traded his inheritance for a bowl of lentil soup. In this case, they have traded their Free Republic heritage for a "lentil soup" candidate, all because they refuse to "taste" defeat, wanting to delay the hunger pangs of defeat until later.

149 posted on 07/14/2012 9:25:19 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: MHGinTN

Running liberal, socialist RINOs as POTUS candidates is the REAL sticking point that allows the dem vote counting scams to place more democrats in Congress...pinpoint the blame where it belongs and stop projecting it onto voters who retain their principles...versus the capitulators we see left and right...


150 posted on 07/14/2012 9:28:00 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Ah yes, wave you self-righteousness falg as if it was the issue unspoken. And I’m sure you divert lots of attention from the realities with that strategy too, as you work tirelessly to aid the improvement of Obama’s stats and empower the democrat down ticket cheating.


151 posted on 07/14/2012 9:31:26 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN
Colo, so long as you refuse to see the way you're aiding and abetting Obama and the DNC, you cannot hope to change your aid into opposition. Finny has swept away your reasoning with a bauble of self-righteousness.
152 posted on 07/14/2012 9:33:24 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: gorush

Rush spanked you Anybody-but-Romney folks on the radio yesterday. Were you able to catch that?


153 posted on 07/14/2012 9:34:37 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: EternalVigilance

Defense: as I said, defense savings will happen as a result of returning from war.

Israel: Chuck Baldwin, the most recent Constitution Party candidate, is a premillennialist, and they are notoriously pro-Israel. Not being burdened by foreign entanglements is a worthy goal, and it does not mean one does not recognize one’s allies.

Social Security: Article I, Section 8: “Section. 8.The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; “

Social Security is not against the Constitution, it is simply a poor way to accomplish the goal of providing for the elderly. It is a uniform tax, uniformly applied, and it is designed to provide relief for the elderly. That is not contra-Constitution.

I would add this portion of the 14th amendment: “Section. 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law...shall not be questioned. “


154 posted on 07/14/2012 9:34:51 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Wartime levels of spending have contributed to our deficits. It’s all borrowed money, and it doesn’t really matter where they record it on the ledger.


155 posted on 07/14/2012 9:39:58 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Massachusetts Citizens for Life supports Romney.

the National Right to Life Committee supports Romney.

I guess you are smarter than they are?

156 posted on 07/14/2012 9:46:22 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: muawiyah

HUH?

The USA allied with the Soviet Union against Hitler.

The USA sided with the Taliban against the Soviet Union.

You do what you have to do, to survive.

If you want our country to survive, you will vote for Romney.

Every election is a choice between the “lesser of evils” since NOBODY IS PERFECT, Jesus is not on the ballot!

Therefore, your puritanical silliness only helps the worst of evils: OBAMA!


157 posted on 07/14/2012 9:50:19 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

They might want to ask why Romneycare covers abortion. :)


158 posted on 07/14/2012 10:29:44 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: xzins

Respectfully, your construction is as loosey-goosey as the construction of the Democrats and the Republicans, which is what got us where we are now.

It is not uniform, which means it doesn’t fit the constitutional template for taxation. Which also means it is in no way the “general welfare” either.

As regards Baldwin and the CP you are at the least naive vis a vis Israel and their foreign policy views.


159 posted on 07/14/2012 10:38:57 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (If you've surrendered your principles out of fear of Obama, Obama has already won. TomHoefling.com)
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To: xzins
"The powers of the federal government are enumerated; it can only operate in certain cases; it has legislative powers on defined and limited objects, beyond which it cannot extend its jurisdiction."

-- James Madison


160 posted on 07/14/2012 10:43:19 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (If you've surrendered your principles out of fear of Obama, Obama has already won. TomHoefling.com)
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