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Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A “Vision” of the Future (CW2 Ping)
Western Rifle Shooters ^ | July 25, 2012 | COL Kevin Benson, USA (ret)

Posted on 08/05/2012 7:30:25 AM PDT by Travis McGee

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To: Steel Wolf

Excellent analysis.


81 posted on 08/06/2012 1:33:48 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Travis McGee

Well they are calling him a neo-nazi who had a dishonorable discharge form the Army. Also since the dead tell no tales that version is the one that the leftist press will run with.

The press is now claiming that the weapon used was legally purchased how is this possible? Unless either he lied on the form4473 or the NICS database run by the FBI has been compromised.


82 posted on 08/06/2012 1:47:00 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: Travis McGee
The leaders of the libtard elite establishment are chomping at the bit to unleash hell on their mortal enemies, the Bitter Clinger Nation. They are just PRAYING for the next assault rifle massacre or bombing to at the hands of a bitter clinging tea partier.

This is true; in fact they are so concentrated on their provocations that they've missed some truly stunning openings that their opponents could use. They are ignoring a very important piece in the aftermath of their win in Arizona vs US, that the state could mobilize its military-powers and violently expel the invaders, indeed that is the only option left for states to enforce immigration.

If the Governor of AZ were to declare such an invasion, calling out the organized [National Guard] and unorganized [general citizenry] militia with shoot-to-kill authorization then there would instantly be a political shit-storm on the national level. {Arizona has enough evidence to prove invasion, I believe.}

Then, the governor is perfectly positioned to place the Federal Government into its own no-win scenario: demand federal [armed] assistance under Article IV, Section 4, of the US Constitution:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.
This places a not-insignificant portion of the political caste into a big bind, they have so wholeheartedly thrown themselves into one-world-government/no-borders scheme of things that to render aid would be seen as anathema and backsliding. Further, stalling [or denying] on such a request/demand would only add to the dissatisfaction of the states and serve to embolden the Tea Party/Constitutionalists in their criticisms of government. Lastly, should they act against the state they themselves will be committing treason, as defined by the US Constitution, to wit: giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the states.

In the not-impossible scenario that the federal government were to attack such a state, there would be undeniable proof/justification for the armed rebellion it would spark.

And if it doesn't happen naturally, they might give it some "help." See Fast & Furious, where the Obama regime already crossed the deliberate mass-murder-for-political-gain Rubicon.

Indeed, I can easily imagine a "false flag" operation for doing exactly this. In fact, it would be absurdly easy to do given the segregation of military and civilian law enforcement. Imagine setting a known-loyal military unit on a [say] DEA unit where one wipes out the other; the news then shows the resultant casualties and the "obvious militia" forensic evidence (which would obviously be planted/scrubbed). If nothing else, Fast & Furious shows how little regard is placed on civilian lives and safety.

83 posted on 08/06/2012 2:48:52 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: The Shrew
Understand, though, that you could insert any number of organizations into our scenario in lieu of the Tea Party.

but you DIDN'T... you used the TP with malice and forethought!!!

84 posted on 08/06/2012 3:07:47 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
but you DIDN'T... you used the TP with malice and forethought!!!

Great point.

TS

85 posted on 08/06/2012 4:01:39 PM PDT by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: The Shrew
What utter bullshit. Instead of Orangeland or Pinetopia, they just happened to pick the Evil White Racist Tea Party Militia.

Pure random choice.

The b!tch is pushing to have her CW theories put into practice, so she is throwing lit matches at the fuse to the Fort Sumter cannon.

Then she will write the history of CW2.

She's an evil b!tch, on par with Hitler's racist propagandists portraying German Jews as filty vermin.

86 posted on 08/06/2012 4:20:02 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: OneWingedShark

A million Reichstag Fire scenarios come to mind. I alreeady wrote a novel about a false flat “assault rifle stadium massacre,” so they probably will not use that one.


87 posted on 08/06/2012 4:22:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

BFL


88 posted on 08/06/2012 4:34:02 PM PDT by MrIndi
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To: Travis McGee
I can only conclude that the liberal elite powers-that-be have an epic hard-on for "white racist Tea Party militia terrorists."

Concur. And while the political success of the various Tea OParty supporters both horifies and disgucts them, what they're REALLY worried about is the successful combination of the political Tea Party success with the manpower and professional skills of some three and a half million military veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. That could really be a game-changer.

We cannot ignore this trend. We have had our warning. The leaders of the libtard elite establishment are chomping at the bit to unleash hell on their mortal enemies, the Bitter Clinger Nation. They are just PRAYING for the next assault rifle massacre or bombing to at the hands of a bitter clinging tea partier.

Concur.

And if it doesn't happen naturally, they might give it some "help." See Fast & Furious, where the Obama regime already crossed the deliberate mass-murder-for-political-gain Rubicon.

Concur, again. Recall also the FBI COINTELPRO operations of thec 1960s and '70s, renamed after former FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover's death and the exposure of the program after a breakin at the FBI offices in Media, Pennsylvania, but never completely terminated, though spread out among other federal agencies, including the BATF and the Army military intelligence surveillance of prominent political figures known as Operation Watch Tower.

89 posted on 08/06/2012 6:26:07 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: Travis McGee
A million Reichstag Fire scenarios come to mind. I alreeady wrote a novel about a false flat “assault rifle stadium massacre,” so they probably will not use that one.

I dunno; given the serious lack of any meaningful repercussion of Fast and Furious they might try it precisely as an FU/rile-the-conspiracy-theorists-up measure.

What could be better than using one of the plays from a conservative book like yours?
1 -- The audience that read it would be virtually all conservative TEA-party types; i.e. the designated fall-guy.
2 -- The book can be claimed as the source, and being authored by yourself implicate the conservatives. (Guilt by association.)

The dangerous thing about our government is that it believes itself capable of anything.

90 posted on 08/06/2012 7:04:35 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: archy; Travis McGee; Interesting Times
And while the political success of the various Tea OParty supporters both horifies and disgucts them, what they're REALLY worried about is the successful combination of the political Tea Party success with the manpower and professional skills of some three and a half million military veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. That could really be a game-changer.

They haven't even thought of that yet. That's what's so terrifying and amazing about the essay. They haven't a clue as to what really makes up this country. It is a strength and a weakness. A glaring weakness.

Regards,

TS

91 posted on 08/06/2012 8:00:40 PM PDT by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: Travis McGee

Thank you for maintaining this ping list.


92 posted on 08/06/2012 8:16:21 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Repeal The 17th

What is this map measuring? Crime rates? Welfare dependency? Percentage of votes democrat?


93 posted on 08/06/2012 8:25:30 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: archy

I think the turnout on Chikfil-A day must also have been a shock to them. Bitter Clinger Nation took the time to put millions of people into visible action on a national scale the MSM could not ignore, the way, say, they ignore 500,000 pro-lifers assembled on the mall each year. This was unexpected.

Against our millions of Chikfil-A Warriors, they put out a few dozen kissers and a bit of vandalism on Friday. More media than kissers. The comparison must stick in their craws.


94 posted on 08/06/2012 8:51:08 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: OneWingedShark

Nope, I don’t think they can use it and point to EFAD, they’d only look like the goons and dolts as they were portrayed in sensational fiction. That’s also why I’m keeping a higher profile, signing comments, writing essays etc.


95 posted on 08/06/2012 8:53:40 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: The Shrew

There are far more former and reserve officers and NCOs with recent experience, than there are on active duty military plus police plus feds.

We are fighting 50,000 mostly illiterates with AKs in A-stan, and we are not winning.

How many 500 yard scoped deer rifles on up exist in private hands in the USA? Even Hitler would not attack Switzerland.


96 posted on 08/06/2012 8:56:40 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
How many 500 yard scoped deer rifles on up exist in private hands in the USA? Even Hitler would not attack Switzerland.

I don't disagree with what you're saying at all, and you've very articulately pointed out before how novel such a fight would be in world history. Still, the biggest problem we face, bar none, is the pairing of rising collectivist ambition with the inability of the modern military to properly understand or win wars. That's the kind of stuff that tragic miscalculations are made of.

Here's my concern. The left wants a fight. Specifically, they want a fight between the uniformed U.S. security forces (aka the center right) against the TEA Party/Constitutionalists/patriots (aka the far right).

The left doesn't have an army of its own, so their operational concept is to get the organs of the state to fight for them. They sit comfortably behind the flag, while making the actual patriots into public enemies. Rhetorically, it all works for them. The evil conservatives are vanquished, the left doesn't need to spill any blood, and the institutions that many conservatives cherish (military and law enforcement) are the ones that did the deed.

Fact of the matter is, the left has no army and really can't get one. They need a state-versus-patriot fight because there's no equivalent on the left. Just zero liability voters who expect to get paid in exchange for their support. They have needs and demands, true, but they're no pool of warriors ready to be tapped. That job will need to be outsourced.

The security structure in this country isn't leftist by any means, but there's lots of people with mortgages to pay and mouths to feed. They may be center right politically, but they'll do what they're told in the short run if the reason is marginally plausible. And that's the danger. The forces on the left that want the fight also want it to be over quickly, because it needs to be. They don't realize that realistically, once it starts, it could turn into Afghanistan in every single state. Even our own planners didn't realize that Afghanistan was going to turn into Afghanistan. Ditto Iraq. And at the higher levels, some of them are advising the same leftist powers-that-be on military and civil strategies like this.

Sadly, the left wants the fight so badly, and on paper they may think that the fight will be as easy as following the doctrine laid out by the nice men from the War College, but that kind of fight bedeviled us for a decade in the sandbox. It would be a thousand times worse here. It's that lack of understanding what they'd be unleashing that worries me more than anything. At least Hitler feared the Swiss for the right reasons. He may have been a fool in a number of ways, but he learned some hard lessons in WWI up close and personally. I really wonder if the left comprehends what kind of fire they're playing with.

97 posted on 08/06/2012 10:03:22 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: Travis McGee

T. McGee, you and Steel Wolf have a MOST OUTSTANDING thread going. And a lot of other posters have helped also.

Mike Vanderboegh (and I cringe every time I try to spell his name, thinking how easily misspelt it is), over at Sipsey Street, has a real good take, as well. This essay is blowing up here in the web world!!!

Thanks for posting this!

semper fi,

DC Wright
USMC Retired
TEA Partier, Oath Keeper and III%
Sheepdog by profession


98 posted on 08/07/2012 2:23:53 AM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE!!!)
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To: FreedomPoster; Travis McGee

Thanks neighbor for the heads up...very informative thread well worth the time. Will be shooting you a pm shortly.

Trav...The quagmire at the mall is now ready for me to come do my thing starting an a week. Will be in touch.

Excellent commentary on this thread by the usual group of posters. As usual...I have nothing to add but thanks to all for the effort. It is very appreciated.

Well..there is one thing that I don’t see many point up when the number of deer rifles is brought up....

The young ones are not only taught marksmanship...they are taught the art of killing....plus cover...concealment...breath control..etc.

Around here..the good ones blossom at 12-14...by thirty there’s two decades of honing the craft. Then there’s bow seasons.

Changing the target from deer..to turkey...to X...doesn’t take much.


99 posted on 08/07/2012 2:54:29 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Dave Mustaine for president.)
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To: tbw2

It is a 3D version of the famous red/blue map.
The big blue spikes are where all the democrat votes come from.


100 posted on 08/07/2012 4:21:28 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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