Posted on 08/31/2012 9:24:54 AM PDT by chessplayer
Ditto. I loved it. Weird....but I loved it.
Everything you said about General Stewart....yes, he was an AF General (Res)....is dead accurate.
To imply Eastwood was somehow playing off of Stewart...no. Not even close.
His speech was quirky, off the cuff, a bit bizarre....but I loved it. It was Clint being Clint in 2012, not Dirty Harry or He Who Has No Name in spaghetti westerns.
LOL. The GOP convention has gone viral! Result: millions more people will be watching Romney’s convention speech just to satisfy their curiosity.
How great is this. Clint Eastwood ridiculed Obama in front of millions of people, and Eastwood, Rubio, and Mitt all scored direct hits without damaging Romney one bit.
I think the Democrat Socialists are just jealous they didn’t think of this first ;-)
Thanks. They will get better, Bob.
To imply Eastwood was somehow playing off of Stewart...no. Not even close.
I beg to differ:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKECvqSVWPA
The entire concept for Clint’s parody came from the movie “Harvey.”
No one but you said anything about not voting. That is a strawman argument. When I want Obamacare, I'll vote for Obama, which is never. When I want Romneycare, I'll vote for Romney, which is.... While you and others vote to put into power a man who authored Romneycare, I and others of like mind will invite everyone to find some future candidates who will respect the Constitution and let us take care of ourselves. Others may join, or they can continue down the current path to the virtual elimination of the Constitution's actual protections. If we fail, it will not be for a lack of our trying, but it will be for a lack of everyone else not trying.
I know Republicans who have spent the past 80 years compromising their values in the vain hope the Republican Party would change its ways and do more to restore the Constitution and individual liberties, mostly to no avail. How many more decades are you willing to wait for the elite to stop changing the rules and excluding you from the decisionmaking? How much longer will you aid and abet the digging of this hole any deeper through the Constitution and the Republic?
Yer a lost cause
So, lemme guess....We need a guy like Ron Paul, huh ? Maybe Pat Buchanan, or some other paleocon loser who can’t even count on his own mother to vote for him.
Under Ronald Reagan’s leadership, the Soviet Union was defeated without firing a shot and there was the greatest expansion of wealth in human history.
If you’re unhappy with that, I don’t know what else to say.
*SIGH*
You have it backwards. Read the original Republican Party Platform of 1856:
Republican Party Platform of 1856
June 18, 1856
The American Presidency Project
This Convention of Delegates, assembled in pursuance of a call addressed to the people of the United States, without regard to past political differences or divisions, who are opposed to the repeal of the Missouri Compromise; to the policy of the present Administration; to the extension of Slavery into Free Territory; in favor of the admission of Kansas as a Free State; of restoring the action of the Federal Government to the principles of Washington and Jefferson; and for the purpose of presenting candidates for the offices of President and Vice-President, do
Resolved: That the maintenance of the principles promulgated in the Declaration of Independence, and embodied in the Federal Constitution are essential to the preservation of our Republican institutions, and that the Federal Constitution, the rights of the States, and the union of the States, must and shall be preserved.
Resolved: That, with our Republican fathers, we hold it to be a self-evident truth, that all men are endowed with the inalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and that the primary object and ulterior design of our Federal Government were to secure these rights to all persons under its exclusive jurisdiction; that, as our Republican fathers, when they had abolished Slavery in all our National Territory, ordained that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law, it becomes our duty to maintain this provision of the Constitution against all attempts to violate it for the purpose of establishing Slavery in the Territories of the United States by positive legislation, prohibiting its existence or extension therein. That we deny the authority of Congress, of a Territorial Legislation, of any individual, or association of individuals, to give legal existence to Slavery in any Territory of the United States, while the present Constitution shall be maintained.
Resolved: That the Constitution confers upon Congress sovereign powers over the Territories of the United States for their government; and that in the exercise of this power, it is both the right and the imperative duty of Congress to prohibit in the Territories those twin relics of barbarism—Polygamy, and Slavery.
Resolved: That while the Constitution of the United States was ordained and established by the people, in order to “form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty,” and contain ample provision for the protection of the life, liberty, and property of every citizen, the dearest Constitutional rights of the people of Kansas have been fraudulently and violently taken from them.
Their Territory has been invaded by an armed force;
Spurious and pretended legislative, judicial, and executive officers have been set over them, by whose usurped authority, sustained by the military power of the government, tyrannical and unconstitutional laws have been enacted and enforced;
The right of the people to keep and bear arms has been infringed.
Test oaths of an extraordinary and entangling nature have been imposed as a condition of exercising the right of suffrage and holding office.
The right of an accused person to a speedy and public trial by an impartial jury has been denied;
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, has been violated;
They have been deprived of life, liberty, and property without due process of law;
That the freedom of speech and of the press has been abridged;
The right to choose their representatives has been made of no effect;
Murders, robberies, and arsons have been instigated and encouraged, and the offenders have been allowed to go unpunished;
That all these things have been done with the knowledge, sanction, and procurement of the present National Administration; and that for this high crime against the Constitution, the Union, and humanity, we arraign that Administration, the President, his advisers, agents, supporters, apologists, and accessories, either before or after the fact, before the country and before the world; and that it is our fixed purpose to bring the actual perpetrators of these atrocious outrages and their accomplices to a sure and condign punishment thereafter.
Resolved, That Kansas should be immediately admitted as a state of this Union, with her present Free Constitution, as at once the most effectual way of securing to her citizens the enjoyment of the rights and privileges to which they are entitled, and of ending the civil strife now raging in her territory.
Resolved, That the highwayman’s plea, that “might makes right,” embodied in the Ostend Circular, was in every respect unworthy of American diplomacy, and would bring shame and dishonor upon any Government or people that gave it their sanction.
Resolved, That a railroad to the Pacific Ocean by the most central and practicable route is imperatively demanded by the interests of the whole country, and that the Federal Government ought to render immediate and efficient aid in its construction, and as an auxiliary thereto, to the immediate construction of an emigrant road on the line of the railroad.
Resolved, That appropriations by Congress for the improvement of rivers and harbors, of a national character, required for the accommodation and security of our existing commerce, are authorized by the Constitution, and justified by the obligation of the Government to protect the lives and property of its citizens.
Resolved, That we invite the affiliation and cooperation of the men of all parties, however differing from us in other respects, in support of the principles herein declared; and believing that the spirit of our institutions as well as the Constitution of our country, guarantees liberty of conscience and equality of rights among citizens, we oppose all legislation impairing their security.
The Republican Party in 1856 made “The right to choose their representatives has been made of no effect” a plank in the political platform. The REpublican Party in 2012 and in earlier years manipulated the rules and demonstrated contempt for parliamentary procedure in direct disregard of its founding principles and 1856 party platform. Just how many election cycles and how many years of this disregard for the Constitutional rule of law are you suggesting U.S. Citizens must endure before they conclude it just may be the Republican Party leadership may itself be a lost cause requiring a remedy?
And hows that going now? Conservatives will never get back there by not voting while sitting back insulting everyone who isn’t “conservative” enough.
In other words, you refuse to answer the simple and basic question. Instead, you make false accusations of insulting, and thereby engage in insults yourself. How is it so difficult to understand that you cannot secure the blessings of liberty and self-governance by electing leaders who deny the blessings of liberty and self-governance?
The German people made that mistake with the Weimar government. The decent people in Germany allowed themselves and their political parties to be hijacked by minority extremists in the SDP (Communist-Socialist) and NSDAP (NAZI) parties at the expense of the Christian Democrats and various smaller political parties and independents. The same groups who perpetrated those events are replaying the same strategies and tactics in today’s world and tosay’s America. They are applying Julius Caesar’s divide and conquer strategy by encouraging you to forget the most basic principles of self-government and scaremongering you into embracing the Cult of Personality and the worst forms of partisan politics.
Here you are once again falsely accusing me of “not voting while sitting back insulting everyone who isn’t “conservative” enough.” Not only have I been voting, I’ve also served as a delegate to the conventions. I have witnessed first hand as Republicans voted for a candidate, only to have their votes dismissed and misrepresented by the Republican Party’s leadership. And, no, I am not talking about Ron Paul. On the contrary, it was supporters of Romnay and Paul who gained more delegates at the conventions despite having fewer votes from the voters. Whether at the state conventions or the latest national conventon, the leadership keeps ignoring and rewriting the rules to deeny the voters the power to elect their own representatives. Such undemocratic manipulatons of parliamentary rules to disenfranchise the voters is hardly in keeping with the democratic principles of the Republic or the original platform of the Republican Party in 1856.
You can also knock off the strawman argument about whether or not someone is supposed to be “conservative enough.” That is exactly the same false argument used by the Communists, socialists, Progressives, and Democrats to ridicule and intimidate Republicans, moderate Democrats, and Independents into compromising their fundamental principles in favor of extremist political movements and poliicies. Having the right to vote and requiring a political party to respect the vote and give effect to that vote is a fundamental principle of right, and it cannot be misconstrued as being too demanding of conservative nor liberal principes to respect. It is is simple and unalienable human right. It is a right beeing abridged by both of the major political parties, to their eternal shame and dishonor.
Now, I’ll ask the question once again. How long must you wait for the Republican and/or Democratic parties to conform to the minimum standards of the Constitution in matters such as voting rights, political representation, and other political issues before you will acknowledge the need to seek a remedy outside the political party?
We get the govt we deserve. If you are “waiting” for them to do something then you are the problem. Good people need to get involved and make stuff happen. The Tea Party is a good example.
If you continue waiting for the GOP to be more conservative you will be waiting a long long time.
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