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To: Psycho_Bunny
Here's what I originally said:
There is still no scientific evidence to support the born that way theory. None. On the other hand, there is plenty of scientific evidence the environment in which we are raised is key. Even scientists with an attraction to the same sex do not believe they will ever find evidence homosexuals are born that way. Of course, you won't hear that from the media. You have to actually read the scientific studies.
Then you replied with:
Actually, there’s a study from a few years ago that involved brain dissection. There’s a bundle of nerves that runs around the hypothalamus which is much smaller in females than in males.

The researchers found that men who identified as transgender had the smaller “female” sized bundle but men who identified as gay had the normal male size.

Your "Actually" implies what I said wasn't correct when what I said was 100% correct. There is still no scientific evidence homosexuals are born that way.

And if the study to which you refer is from Simon Levay, even he doesn't believe his study supports the born that way theory. Here is what Levay said regarding his hypothalamus study: I did not prove that homosexuality is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay. I didn't show that gay men are 'born that way,' the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work."

If you're not referring to Levay's study, to what study are you referring?

18 posted on 09/14/2012 9:44:53 AM PDT by scripter
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To: scripter

Seriously. What the hell are you talking about?

I have stated twice - and will now reaffirm a third time - that there is no evidence homosexuals are “born that way”.

This is my third post on this thread and the third time I’ve agreed with you.

Do you get it now?

Let me say it a fourth time: there is no evidence that homosexuals are born with homosexual behavior tendencies.

Are we clear on that now? Good.

I said “Actually” because, like you, I take issue with the statement:

“[Homosexuals] are born with the body of one sex and the brain of the other.”

That’s a statement I’ve never heard used as a physiological reason for homosexual behavior but “actually” I have heard it used to describe what appears to be brain damage in male-to-female transgenders.

Transgenderism has nothing to do with sexual attraction. They are two completely different subjects.

I’ve never heard of Levay. I was referring to Kruijver. ...And the only reason I found that study the slightest bit credible is because Kruijver actually presents photos of the differences. The study is reprinted here: http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/85/5/2034.full

Your implication that I disagreed with you is a dishonest interpretation of my statements. It’s annoying. Please stop.


19 posted on 09/14/2012 10:35:06 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny ("Insulting" Islam is as impossible as casting aspersions on a pile of dog crap.)
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