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If the GOPe Were Smart They Would Let Gov. Palin Back Into the Room
Conservatives4Palin ^ | November 15 2012 | Stacy Drake

Posted on 11/15/2012 10:48:44 AM PST by Bratch

If the GOPe Were Smart They Would Let Gov. Palin Back Into the Room

But this is the “party of stupid” we’re talking about, so I won’t hold my breath.

In the wake of the disastrous 2012 election results, there has been a lot of discussion on the right regarding the GOP’s apparent “message” problem. Much of the conversations has focused on immigration issues as a way to bring in new voters. Recently, Charles Krauthammer wrote:

I’ve always been of the “enforcement first” school, with the subsequent promise of legalization. I still think it’s the better policy. But many Hispanics fear that there will be nothing beyond enforcement. So, promise amnesty right up front. Secure the border with guaranteed legalization to follow on the day the four border-state governors affirm that illegal immigration has slowed to a trickle.

Imagine Marco Rubio advancing such a policy on the road to 2016. It would transform the landscape. He’d win the Hispanic vote. Yes, win it. A problem fixable with a single policy initiative is not structural. It is solvable.

It’s going to take much more than that to solve the current issues the GOP has with voters. You can’t pander to one racial demographic and think that will solve all of your problems. The predicament that they find themselves in goes much deeper than a single issue, and it’s based primarily on trust. According to an election night survey released by Breitbart News, Judicial Watch, and Public Opinion Strategies:

Voters’ responses suggest that the American public agrees with conservative policies–but does not trust the Republican Party to implement them.

For example, voters dislike big government, with 71% agreeing (and 49% strongly agreeing) that: “The larger the size of government the more opportunities it creates for possible corruption.” In addition, 85% of voters said they were concerned about corruption in Washington, and 53% described themselves as “very concerned.”

Yet voters do not trust Republicans more than Democrats to deal with corruption. Only 34% said Republicans would do a better job of cleaning up corruption; 37% said Democrats would. That is an indictment of the permanent political class, regardless of party. And despite the President’s talk of cleaning up Washington, his party is not viewed as better able to do so.

So, the Democrats share much of the same issue with voters regarding corruption, but they’re able to squeak enough votes each cycle because they have more credibility on other matters. Here’s a thought. How about for starters, the GOP stop selling out their principles and try to gain some trust back with that 71% who dislike big government? And how does either party address the 85% of voters who are concerned about corruption in Washington, when both of them are compromised in that area? Considering all of the money wasted in Washington on cronies and corruption, these concerns by the vast majority are extremely legitimate.

As I watched the debate go back and forth on the GOP’s message problem after the election, an article written by Anand Giridharadas back in 2011 titled “Some of Sarah Palin’s Ideas Cross the Political Divide” came to mind. In it, he wrote:

[S]omething curious happened when Ms. Palin strode onto the stage last weekend at a Tea Party event in Indianola, Iowa…

She made three interlocking points. First, that the United States is now governed by a “permanent political class,” drawn from both parties, that is increasingly cut off from the concerns of regular people. Second, that these Republicans and Democrats have allied with big business to mutual advantage to create what she called “corporate crony capitalism.” Third, that the real political divide in the United States may no longer be between friends and foes of Big Government, but between friends and foes of vast, remote, unaccountable institutions (both public and private).

In supporting her first point, about the permanent political class, she attacked both parties’ tendency to talk of spending cuts while spending more and more; to stoke public anxiety about a credit downgrade, but take a vacation anyway; to arrive in Washington of modest means and then somehow ride the gravy train to fabulous wealth. She observed that 7 of the 10 wealthiest counties in the United States happen to be suburbs of the nation’s capital.

Her second point, about money in politics, helped to explain the first. The permanent class stays in power because it positions itself between two deep troughs: the money spent by the government and the money spent by big companies to secure decisions from government that help them make more money.

“Do you want to know why nothing ever really gets done?” she said, referring to politicians. “It’s because there’s nothing in it for them. They’ve got a lot of mouths to feed — a lot of corporate lobbyists and a lot of special interests that are counting on them to keep the good times and the money rolling along.”

Because her party has agitated for the wholesale deregulation of money in politics and the unshackling of lobbyists, these will be heard in some quarters as sacrilegious words.

Ms. Palin’s third point was more striking still: in contrast to the sweeping paeans to capitalism and the free market delivered by the Republican presidential candidates whose ranks she has yet to join, she sought to make a distinction between good capitalists and bad ones. The good ones, in her telling, are those small businesses that take risks
and sink and swim in the churning market; the bad ones are well-connected megacorporations that live off bailouts, dodge taxes and profit terrifically while creating no jobs...

“This is not the capitalism of free men and free markets, of innovation and hard work and ethics, of sacrifice and of risk,” she said of the crony variety. She added: “It’s the collusion of big government and big business and big finance to the detriment of all the rest — to the little guys. It’s a slap in the face to our small business owners — the true entrepreneurs, the job creators accounting for 70 percent of the jobs in America.”

Keep in mind that Sarah Palin was told to “leave the room” by none other than Charles Krauthammer, back in 2009. Yet now he tells the Republican Party that in order for it to save it’s hide, they must reward lawbreakers and anoint a man as leader who has engaged in illegally soliciting foreign donations, just as President Obama has also done.

That is not the answer. The answer for the GOP is to clean up its own act and address the real concerns of the majority of Americans, regardless of political affiliation. They can start by not shunning the members of their own party who have the credibility to speak on such matters. Reform in Washington is a winning message and has the potential to bring in voters from nearly every racial, gender, and economic demographic in the country. It isn’t too late for the Republican Party to jump on board, but time is ticking. American voters need a true opposition party to the big-government, tax and spend, corruption plagued Democrats. The GOP establishment would do themselves and the country a favor by allowing people into the room who can credibly push for reform, and by ceasing their own practices of big-government corruption.

Unfortunately, I don’t see that happening anytime soon.


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To: fortheDeclaration

If you weren’t a troll, you would have posted that to post 108 where Ted Cruz himself shows that you are lying, and making it up. To what end, only an anti-conservative troll knows.

“Ted Cruz says Sarah Palin’s endorsement was ‘game-changing’ in his Senate win”

“”Sarah Palin might have been sitting out this year’s Republican National Convention, but that does not mean that she has been forgotten by the party faithful in Tampa.

Especially not by Ted Cruz, who credits her endorsement with helping him beat Texas Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst in the race for the Texas GOP Senate nomination.

While speaking with POLITICO’s Mike Allen this morning, the Texas Republican Senate nominee called Palin’s endorsement “game-changing.”

“If you look at the senate races across the country this cycle and last cycle, Governor Palin has had a game changing impact one after the other,” explained Cruz.

Palin endorsed Cruz, a Tea Party favorite who shares her philosophy of liberty and limited government, just days before a wide-open May 29 primary, helping to propel Cruz into a strong second place showing. The Cruz surge provided momentum for his runoff battle with Dewhurst.

“Fighters like Ted Cruz can lead the charge for us,” former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin said in July when she came to Texas to campaign with Cruz, calling him a “a proven, common-sense constitutional conservative.”

The Tea Party favorite admitted that many have referred to his victory as “improbable.” He told Allen that the reason why Palin’s endorsement has had such an enormous impact is because voters consider her a true barometer of conservatism.

“In a Republican primary, everyone claims to be conservative and voters are pretty cynical. They are tired of these candidates that sounds great on the stump. They say they are going to cut spending, they get into the office and they become spineless jellyfish,” Cruz said. “I think conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is a real deal.”””


121 posted on 11/18/2012 3:08:47 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb FischerÂ’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Sarah Palin did not quit because of those lawsuits. You know that.

She never even mentioned them in the speech she gave when she quit. She only mention the “ethics complaints.” She said: “Every one - all 15 of the ethics complaints have been dismissed. We’ve won!”

FYI, every governor in the nation gets frivolous lawsuits filed against them. My governor Snyder has been sued several times for making changes in Michigan.

I am sure he is not quitting because of it.


122 posted on 11/18/2012 3:42:04 PM PST by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
Sarah Palin did not quit because of those lawsuit

Palinhater, your agenda and/or ignorance is obvious. They were part of the reason.

The announcement caught even current and former Palin advisers by surprise. Former members of the John McCain campaign team, now dispersed across the country, traded perplexed e-mails and phone calls. But personal pressures have been mounting _ scrutiny on her family, legal bills, ethics investigations and a running, public feud with McCain's camp that has flared up again. In a hastily arranged news conference at her home in suburban Wasilla, Palin said she will formally step down July 26, and Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell will be inaugurated at the governor's picnic in Fairbanks. She said she had decided against running for re-election as Alaska's governor, and believed it was best to leave office even though she had two years left to her term. "Many just accept that lame duck status, and they hit that road. They draw a paycheck. They kind of milk it. And I'm not going to put Alaskans through that," she said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/03/palin-resigns-will-step-d_n_225573.html

FYI, every governor in the nation gets frivolous lawsuits filed against them.

Please provide evidence showing which governors have had anywhere near the complaints and lawsuits filed against them.

123 posted on 11/18/2012 4:07:14 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
Sarah Palin did not quit because of those lawsuit

Palinhater, your agenda and/or ignorance is obvious. They were part of the reason.

The announcement caught even current and former Palin advisers by surprise. Former members of the John McCain campaign team, now dispersed across the country, traded perplexed e-mails and phone calls. But personal pressures have been mounting _ scrutiny on her family, legal bills, ethics investigations and a running, public feud with McCain's camp that has flared up again. In a hastily arranged news conference at her home in suburban Wasilla, Palin said she will formally step down July 26, and Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell will be inaugurated at the governor's picnic in Fairbanks. She said she had decided against running for re-election as Alaska's governor, and believed it was best to leave office even though she had two years left to her term. "Many just accept that lame duck status, and they hit that road. They draw a paycheck. They kind of milk it. And I'm not going to put Alaskans through that," she said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/03/palin-resigns-will-step-d_n_225573.html

FYI, every governor in the nation gets frivolous lawsuits filed against them.

Please provide evidence showing which governors have had anywhere near the complaints and lawsuits filed against them.

124 posted on 11/18/2012 4:08:34 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: Alaska Wolf
But personal pressures have been mounting _ scrutiny on her family, legal bills, ethics investigations and a running, public feud with McCain's camp that has flared up again

Personal pressures....... scrutiny......legal bills.... "ETHICS INVESTIGATIONS"...... feud with McCain camp........

No mention of any lawsuits..... Thanks for making my point.

Every post you have made helps me make my case. She was not driven out because of "frivolous lawsuits."

125 posted on 11/18/2012 4:59:10 PM PST by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
No mention of any lawsuits

WTF do you think personal pressures are? Frivolous ethics complaints and lawsuits, Palinhater. Why were there legal bills? You're obsessed and not very bright!

126 posted on 11/18/2012 5:30:18 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: Alaska Wolf

My Republican governor has also been sued, just like Sarah Palin. But he is not quitting because of it.

Regarding Sarah Palin’s legal bills..... she owed $500,000.

She quit two months after she signed a multi million dollar book deal. Plus she was getting $100,000 per speech.

So tell me again that she was going broke...


127 posted on 11/18/2012 5:44:32 PM PST by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand

No offense, but lay off Palin.


128 posted on 11/18/2012 5:50:16 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Bratch

BTTT


129 posted on 11/18/2012 5:52:24 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
My Republican governor has also been sued, just like Sarah Palin. But he is not quitting because of it.

Please provide evidence showing the number of frivolous complaints and lawsuits filed against your governors, Palinhater! You are really pathetic.

130 posted on 11/18/2012 6:15:22 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: Alaska Wolf

I know that Michigan Governor Rick Snyder has been sued. You can google his lawsuits as easily as me. I am sure every governor has them..... I just googled Florida Governor Rick Scott and found out he has been sued. But I doubt he is going to quit. I know that Rick Snyder will not either.

But Sarah Palin did quit her job as governor after... and in her words... all of the ethics complaints had been dismissed. In other words, all of the ethics complaints were all dismissed when she resigned.....

Then after she had just signed a multi-million dollar book deal she quit.... and when she was commanding $100,000 per speech.

My point is that she did not quit because of frivolous lawsuits and legal bills. The ethics complaints, according to her, were finished. Plus she had ample funds to pay her legal bills.

With all due respect, I do share her political opinions.


131 posted on 11/18/2012 6:36:26 PM PST by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
You can google his lawsuits as easily as me.

Your allegation, your responsibility to provide documentation.

But Sarah Palin did quit her job as governor after... and in her words... all of the ethics complaints had been dismissed.

In her words? Provide the exact quote! Two more complaints were filed after she resigned. :http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/back-story/2009/jul/11/2-more-ethics-complaints-filed-against-palin-after/

Aren't you embarrassed about being consistently proven wrong, Palinhater?

132 posted on 11/18/2012 6:50:25 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand

With all due respect the situation in Alaska was unique.

Palin faced (much) more incumbent-unfriendly than in other states. When the lawsuits began, they took on a life of their own and threatened to BK Palin.

Please lay off Palin!

If you have a beef with her, say so. But stop confusing readers.

Then perhaps find something else to talk about.


133 posted on 11/18/2012 6:55:28 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Alaska Wolf

Here is Palin’s exact quote:

“Every one - all 15 of the ethics complaints have been dismissed. We’ve won!”

So in other words, ALL of Palin’s “ethics complaints” were dismissed when she quit. It was done. It was over.....

By the way, Google is easy to use.

Rick Snyder’s lawsuits:

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=governor+rick+snyder+lawsuits&oq=governor+rick+snyder+lawsuits&gs_l=hp.12...11890.11890.4.15146.1.1.0.0.0.0.312.312.3-1.1.0.les%3Bepsugrpq1..0.0...1.1.r1LArEdK5zc&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=1f94c437ae6d6f74&bpcl=38625945&biw=1138&bih=594

Rick Scott’s lawsuits:

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=governor+rick+scott+lawsuits&oq=governor+rick+scott+lawsuits&gs_l=hp.12...92022.93426.5.96052.6.6.0.0.0.3.311.1587.2-5j1.6.0.les%3Bepsugrpq1..0.0...1.1.M1oBlOpwYWg&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=1f94c437ae6d6f74&bpcl=38625945&biw=1138&bih=594


134 posted on 11/18/2012 7:02:30 PM PST by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
“Every one - all 15 of the ethics complaints have been dismissed. We’ve won!”

What about those filed after the 15 were dismissed? You really aren't very well informed for an agenda driven disinformationist. Or are you just an out and out liar?

Rick Snyder’s lawsuits:Rick Snyder’s lawsuits: Google is easy to use.

Then why didn't you post the exact numbers of lawsuits, Palinhater?

I believe you are too dumb to be embarrassed.

135 posted on 11/18/2012 7:25:50 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: Alaska Wolf
What about those filed after the 15 were dismissed?

Please tell us. How many ethics complaints were filed after she claimed victory on the first 15?

136 posted on 11/18/2012 7:46:48 PM PST by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: ansel12
You must have a hard time reading simple English, I never denied that Palin was important in the Cruz win, but Palin was also helpful in McCain getting a win as well.

And she supported Lugar against the TeaParty candidate.

So, all in all, she is about a wash in picking candidates.

137 posted on 11/18/2012 8:22:25 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand

4, now answer the questions posed to you, Palinhater.


138 posted on 11/18/2012 8:23:37 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: fortheDeclaration
So, all in all, she is about a wash in picking candidates.

Post your sources claiming her overall endorsements were a "wash".

She didn't "pick" candidates, she endorsed them and has had a very good record.

http://usconservatives.about.com/od/sarahpalin/tp/Sarah-Palins-Winning-Endorsements.htm

Of the 27 candidates Palin endorsed in 2009 and 2010, 22 of them earned victories

139 posted on 11/18/2012 8:32:41 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Palin doesn't qualify for sainthood.

Nobody nominated her for sainthood, pathetic Palinhater. LOLAY!

140 posted on 11/18/2012 8:35:19 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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