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To: JCBreckenridge
If that was your answer, then the answer is "Yes you are". The power to regulate commerce "with foreign nations" is not the same as the power to regulate commerce "among the serveral states".

You are conflating them and destroying that distinction when you use the example of the the federal government imposing a tariff or embargo on foreign goods with them regulating the movement of goods between the states.

Please explain why you want to destroy that distinction, and subvert the intent of the clause.

As for your question, I don't know what WA's plan is to prevent that, nor can I find anything that dictates that they need one. The architecture of the republic laid out in the Constitution makes each state a sovereign government, able to exercise within it's own borders any power that was not transferred to the national government. With power comes responsibility, and the resonsibility for enforcing those laws falls on the state that enacted them. A state may enter into agreements with neighboring states to cooperate in enforcement of those laws, but they are not obligated to commit resources to enforcing the laws of a neighboring state.

If the state of Washington wants to permit the posession of marijuana, an the state of Oregon does not, then it is the responsibility of the state of Oregon to enforce that restriction on it's citizens.

If enough states what to prohibit the posession of marijuana and grant the federal government the authority to enforce that prohibition they can propose and ratify an amendment to that effect, and then the federal government will be legitimately authorized to exercise that power. The is the purpose of the process of amendment. Calling it an exercise in "regulating commerce" is a corrpution of the intent of the Commerce Clause, and frankly it's bullshit, and dangerous bullshit at that.

232 posted on 11/18/2012 5:02:29 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

If they want to draw a sharp line between the two - then they need to police it.

“I don’t know what WA’s plan is to prevent that”

Then I’m not going to support their plan. Sorry. There’s reality and there’s the ‘cross your fingers and hope it all works out’ plan that’s going to work out so spectacularly well for WA.

“The architecture of the republic laid out in the Constitution makes each state a sovereign government, able to exercise within it’s own borders any power that was not transferred to the national government.”

Power to regulate controlled goods is an enumerated power of the federal government. You’ve studiously avoided this argument throughout.

“With power comes responsibility”,

Where is WA going to take the responsibility for increased drug use and dependency? Is the rest of the nation going to have to foot the bill for treatment because of Obamacare?

“If the state of Washington wants to permit the posession of marijuana, an the state of Oregon does not, then it is the responsibility of the state of Oregon to enforce that restriction on it’s citizens.”

Yet, with the Obamacare mandate, other states will be forced to pay for WA’s healthcare. States are not ‘independent entities’, and the welfare of WA has become the problem for everyone else.

“Calling it an exercise in “regulating commerce” is a corrpution of the intent of the Commerce Clause, and frankly it’s bullshit, and dangerous bullshit at that.”

As usual - libertarians are side by side seeking the camel under the tent - let the states push in liberal cause de jour in a few states, then force it on the nation. Frankly, conservatives are sick of it.

But, we know it’s all going to collapse. The more hippy dippy bullshit you pile on, the faster. So good luck.


237 posted on 11/18/2012 5:52:12 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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