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To: ksen
"...What I don't like is the cavalier attitude shown in stories like this by owners towards those that do the actual work that causes companies like Papa John's to grow as successfully as Papa John's has..."

I will guess you don't want to sound like the illustrious leader by saying he didn't build it.

Where would those tens of thousands of workers be if Papa John had not worked his fingers to the bone, put up his own money and who knows what else to build this?

What it boils down to is that HE took all the risks. He could have ended up destitute and having to start over from scratch with no money if he had bolloxed it up. But he didn't. He built a giant in the industry.

All the workers have to do is submit a job application, get hired and do what is expected of them to draw a check. That is the contract between someone who conceptualized, designed and runs a business, and the people he hires to make it happen. They aren't noble heroes. They are people getting paid.

And their baseline appreciation is having a job, getting a paycheck so they can support their families, something they would have had to scrape out themselves, conceptualize themselves, sell themselves and assume all the risks themselves without someone like Papa John who did that FOR them.

They should be damned grateful. I know I am for my job.

I am not the type of person who can do what Papa John did, or the person who founded the institution that I work at. I know that. So I am exceedingly grateful that someone did that heavy lifting so I have a professional framework to learn and grow in. They don't owe me anything more than doing their best to run a self-sustaining profitable organization. In return, I work hard at my job to make sure I fulfill my end of the bargain.

100 posted on 11/17/2012 2:33:34 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: rlmorel
I will guess you don't want to sound like the illustrious leader by saying he didn't build it.

Well Obama wouldn't say John didn't build it either. He would say that John didn't build it alone . . . which he didn't. He had help from infrastructure society provided to people willing to apply for the jobs he needed to done in order to successfully expand his business.

Where would those tens of thousands of workers be if Papa John had not worked his fingers to the bone, put up his own money and who knows what else to build this?

Where would John be without those tens of thousands of workers executing his plan?

What it boils down to is that HE took all the risks. He could have ended up destitute and having to start over from scratch with no money if he had bolloxed it up. But he didn't. He built a giant in the industry.

Ridiculous. There were plenty of other people risking things along with him. Did John take the most risk? Sure. But to claim that John is the only one that took a risk is dumb.

All the workers have to do is submit a job application, get hired and do what is expected of them to draw a check. That is the contract between someone who conceptualized, designed and runs a business, and the people he hires to make it happen. They aren't noble heroes. They are people getting paid.

Using your same logic John isn't some noble hero either. He's getting paid too.

And their baseline appreciation is having a job, getting a paycheck so they can support their families, something they would have had to scrape out themselves, conceptualize themselves, sell themselves and assume all the risks themselves without someone like Papa John who did that FOR them.

Wow, nice serf-like mindset you have. The workers should be thankful to their liege lord Papa John.

They should be damned grateful. I know I am for my job.

Papa John should be damn grateful for his workers too and want to make sure that they are able to afford healthcare insurance for themselves and their families. I can't imagine the unbelievable pressure having your costs go up less than 1% in order to make sure your employees can access the healthcare system must put on someone like Papa John.

I am not the type of person who can do what Papa John did, or the person who founded the institution that I work at. I know that. So I am exceedingly grateful that someone did that heavy lifting so I have a professional framework to learn and grow in. They don't owe me anything more than doing their best to run a self-sustaining profitable organization. In return, I work hard at my job to make sure I fulfill my end of the bargain.

They're asking you to commit a large portion of your life to helping them be successful. They damn sure do owe you something for the sacrifice you are willing to make for them.

105 posted on 11/17/2012 6:08:27 PM PST by ksen
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