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To: Kleon; Tex-Con-Man; RIghtwardHo; nagelbett; Longbow1969; x; KevinDavis

Ok, I understand I won’t change your minds. But something to ask yourself; How has being anti-birther advanced the conservative cause? You really think taking the msm’s approach to birthers helped us this election? You think we somehow did better than we would have otherwise? The GOP allowed for the Senate to vote on McCain’s eligibility and does’t even have the guts to ask if Obama was a citizen of Indonesia as a child, or how he paid for Harvard. Good luck with writing out checks to the “ask no question of our Lord Obama” GOP in 2014 and beyond. Hope Weeping Boehner works out well for ya’ll.


33 posted on 12/09/2012 1:31:17 PM PST by kreitzer
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To: kreitzer

I don’t like Boehner any more than you do, so let’s not go there. And being anti-birther hasn’t helped the ‘conservative cause’ any more than being pro-birther has. Heck, maybe the guy was born in another country. The point is that it doesn’t matter. Can you imagine any scenario where Democrats and the media collectively say, “Wow, we were really wrong about that guy! Maybe he shouldn’t be president after all”? Neither can I. And that’s why it doesn’t matter. I am fully convinced that if irrefutable evidence came out tomorrow that Obama was a non-American, that our media and Democrats would work hard to cover it up, label it a non-issue, and mock whoever mentioned it. And that’s why I’m saying it doesn’t matter. Obama won - twice - because a large chuck of the populace has become stuck on stupid and doped up on the euphoria of ‘free’ handouts. Our battle is not to oust Obama; if he weren’t in, some other lib would be. Our job needs to be to reclaim the soul of America.


34 posted on 12/09/2012 3:08:05 PM PST by nagelbett
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To: kreitzer
Ok, I understand I won’t change your minds. But something to ask yourself; How has being anti-birther advanced the conservative cause?

Being "anti-birther," as you call it, is nothing more than insisting that we conservatives adhere to our own conservative values of 1) understanding and sticking with reality instead of fantasy, 2) being truthful, and 3) respecting the Constitution and the law.

Not as we would like for it to be. But as it actually is.

Aside from that, we are fortunate that a larger percentage of conservatives are not birthers because if they were, it would give lots of ammo to the liberals and the media to (rightly) paint conservatives as uninformed, undiscerning, and (if I might say so) conspiracy-theorist nutjobs.

35 posted on 12/09/2012 10:17:28 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: kreitzer

I think it goes without saying that we don’t need that.


36 posted on 12/09/2012 10:18:46 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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