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To: 4Zoltan
I’m citing the 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act also known as the McCarron-Walters Act. It was amended by the 1965 Act to Amend the Immigration and Nationality also known as the Hart-Celler Act.

It was also amended in 1986 when the law took out the part I just quoted. Either you ignored this originally or you were looking only at the law as amended after 1986. Which is it??

As for the rest not under Perkins v Elg 307 U.S. 325 (1939)

Do you have a point?? This doesn't address countries that do NOT allow dual citizenship. And unlike Obama, the person in this decision was born in this country to naturalized parents. Did Elg have a stepfather or adoptive father who listed her under a new surname in the other country?

Can you cite any treaty/US law that says a child loses his citizenship by adoption by a foreign national?

I already cited the law and showed that it did NOT include adoption as an exemption to loss of citizenship. The exemptions were based on naturalization of the parents, which didn't apply to Lolo Soetoro who was already a foreign national. The acquisition of Indonesian citizenship through adoption is not considered naturalization.

Not Us Law at the time of his move to Indonesia.

Nonsense. Your selective quotation misses the context of my comment. I said if Obama did NOT have U.S. citizenship prior to becoming an Indonesian citizen, then he would have to had to naturalize to become a U.S. citizen after he was sent to the U.S. to live with his grandparents.

288 posted on 01/28/2013 11:43:09 PM PST by edge919
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To: edge919

I’ve never even reviewed the 1986 law, only the 1952/1965 law. That law lists the only 10 ways that a citizen can loss their nationality. You seem to be the one that wants to make US citzenship dependent on what foreign laws say, not me.

Assuming Obama was born in Hawaii and assuming he was adopted by Soetoro there are two possiblities:

If Obama is under five at time of adoption - Under Indonesian law he could automatically become an Indonesian citizen, if under US law, he loses the US citizenship.

If over the age of five at the time of the adoption - he could only become an Indonesian citizen by naturalization (at the age of 21).

Indonesian law did not force the loss of US citizenship, it only governs how someone can gain Indonesian citizenship. The adoption could still take place, the child would just not be an Indonesian citizen unless and until he naturalized at age 21.


293 posted on 01/29/2013 8:31:20 AM PST by 4Zoltan
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