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To: Ezekiel
When social security was implemented it was 42 workers paying in to support each recipient. Now it's roughly 2 per recipient, soon to be 1:1

I don't know how you all are doing, but I'm not crazy about supporting somebody else's retirement.

Oh, I don't mind helping my dad (to a degree) but I don't want to completely support some complete stranger's grandpa.

34 posted on 02/01/2013 11:12:27 PM PST by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: boop
SS was a lie from the start, marketed as a retirement safety net to put decent, law-abiding citizens on government life support in their senior years. Sucked dry from 1001 other forms of taxation, the people would then need and expect a return on their fake but forced “investment”.

The government removes a chunk of income that the individual could save, invest, or spend as his own life warrants, ostensibly so the person won't be left hanging/destitute in his latter years.

The reality is something else entirely, but I really can't fault people for demanding their stolen money back. Yeah, I know you and I are the ones actually paying for it, as it is the government who projected its own gross incompetence, wastefulness and lack of self-control upon the individual citizen, in order to mandate a “safety net” to protect us imbecilic beings from ourselves.

Because I view SS as an entrapment scheme, I just can't get outraged about those who collect it, even though the system is indefensible and unsustainable. The folks who are angling for any means of shirking the responsibilities of life - expecting others to fund their irresponsible life choices as far into the future as they make them (such as having multiple-daddied offspring) - well they are no good. Those are the real takers, but the seniors get tossed in with them due to the convenient, purposeful muddling of the revenues and debts.

Another reason I can't get worked up about seniors on SS is that by forcing the current workers to pay (or rather, go into massive debt) for the current checks, the government is gleefully driving a wedge between and fomenting hatred of the young toward the old. Probably to make Obamacare denial of geriatric care an easier sell. I get the sense that the government wants me to hate old people by training me to view them as leeches. There can be some pretty cantankerous and demanding ones out there, but still...

I know my views can be easy picked apart on an economic level (I've done it myself), but I can't ignore a number of other components that are necessary for the survival of a merciful and just people.

37 posted on 02/02/2013 12:17:46 AM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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