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1 posted on 02/16/2013 9:58:50 PM PST by cab1982
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To: cab1982

Britain may have once filled the bill but were I to name just one country that has our back, it would be Canada, from the Cold War forward. Sure, they sat out Iraq, but frankly, everyone should have sat out Iraq.


2 posted on 02/16/2013 10:07:14 PM PST by Goldsborough
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To: cab1982

Well, some of their media is on our side more than ours is.


4 posted on 02/16/2013 10:10:40 PM PST by Thorliveshere (Tais deau sá taghdedaul!)
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To: cab1982

The US is not a friend to most US citizens. The US is not a friend to anything but Soviet-style AQ-islamists.

Where have you been the last 4 years?


5 posted on 02/16/2013 10:16:55 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: cab1982

British friendship for about the last 95 years has mostly involved how to use the wealth and vast military power of the USA to achieve British ends.
They feel this is natural, because for they are convinced to the point of arrogance that they are morally superior, and more world wise than the USA.

The main reason they jump in with a token force in our military actions, is to have a seat at the table for their senior officers and to be able to influence events in which we do the heavy lifting.

None of this is to disparage British military men at the enlisted and lower commisioned levels, or the many decent British people who count themselves as our friends. But the upper echelons of their Governmental and banking establishment is highly cynical, and is not a friend of the USA.


7 posted on 02/16/2013 10:20:21 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: cab1982

Having gone through somewhat similar experiences on this side of the pond and still having bad feelings towards CPS as a result, all I can say is -it’s not just the UK courts that have it in for you. They may make disparaging remarks about the US, but it is no more pleasant when the CPS courts here assume the worst about you simply because you are a heterosexual male and you have little recourse once they set their sights on you.


12 posted on 02/16/2013 10:24:23 PM PST by Utilizer (What does not kill you... -can sometimes damage you QUITE severely.)
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To: cab1982

The CS sounds like our Child Protective Services. They seem to be everywhere. Why go to UK when you can be abused by petty bureaucrats right here?


15 posted on 02/16/2013 10:26:07 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: cab1982
More like two relatives who squabble from time to time.

However, woe to any non-relative who tries to attack one of them.

18 posted on 02/16/2013 10:26:57 PM PST by Ken H
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To: cab1982

What the hell are you still doing there? I’m sorry to tell you this is widespread in Europe. You would find the same thing in Sweden and Austria. They treat you like crap for several reasons, few of which are worth getting into.

We have deep cultural ties to all of Europe, especially the UK, which is obviously where we get our language from. You have to understand that despite this, a large group of people (possibly a majority) in ALL of these nations despise America. Why? The same reason they despise Israel. The state-controlled media (in Britain, the BBC) is controlled by Marxists who encourage an atmosphere of arrogance. Europeans succumbed to the Social Democrat model of socialism after the fall of the Soviet Union, and it has failed them. Even Germany is on a decline now, as Greece lies in rubble. It’s hard for them to admit this has failed, because for them, it means they have failed. This is why those individuals accused the US of being “backward” for its doctors, despite the fact that the National Health Service is a bankrupt mess providing terrible care in beds crawling with MRSA, various bodily fluids dripping from ceilings. They are trying to make themselves feel better about the state of their nation by attacking you (bear in mind though, the US is not far behind Europe).

What you have in the UK is one of the most decayed cultures in Europe. I would leave as soon as you can. There are some British people who are good-natured and are in tune with what’s going on, but they make up a minority. Most of the population are the product of atheism, perverse culture, government dependency, and a lack of identity.
Think of how you might turn out if you actually believed Obama’s BS, and then woke up one day to find that your identity had been sold to pan-national socialists and invading Muslims, your drip-feed of benefits was gone and you no longer knew how to be a productive citizen, and all that a ‘secular’ society turned away from those ‘old world anti-science’ ideas of faith had brought you was having to cross the street to avoid the gang of feral 12 year olds attacking an old woman. You might just come out of that pretty messed up as well.

Is Britain one of our top allies? No. Not really. Don’t get me wrong, I wish it was. During the Thatcher days, things were very good, but everything has changed. All the UK is now is a pissed off fringe member of the EUSSR, hung with all the neo-Marxist decorations, but a little more whiny than the others. It’s a police state that routinely violates its people’s rights (not that many of them give a damn). They don’t like Americans (especially conservative Americans) because they’ve been told not to, just as they have been told that there is no God, abortion is fun, and gay marriage is a civil right issue. Oh, and don’t forget that third world immigrants make Britain a more ‘vibrant’ society.

I have come to the conclusion that this all won’t change until a total collapse occurs. I’m talking Wiemar. The house must be destroyed and rebuilt again. Come back to America. At least here, there is a cohesive opposition to the progressive socialist cabal. You really have to dig deep to find clear thinkers in the UK.

Sorry your suffering :(


20 posted on 02/16/2013 10:30:22 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: cab1982

Sniff sniff...

February 16, 2013... Borned


22 posted on 02/16/2013 10:41:27 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: cab1982

Uh...this is more a dissertation on what the US is BECOMING....


25 posted on 02/16/2013 10:49:08 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: cab1982
Personally, I would go on a family visit to a neighboring country, say Scotland -or, even better, Ireland. Just a brief stay to admire the countryside. I would contact the embassy for the papers needed for the temporary trip and enjoy the time to relax for a bit. If, while in that new location you decide to travel a bit further abroad *cough*, well, have fun.

Oh, and if I can give you one pleasant thought for this; make sure, if you manage to get away from the brit courts for a time, you do not forget to flash a 'V'-for-Victory hand-signal to them. Some old-fashioned types tend to still regard this as the equivalent of the US Digitus Impudicus sign. But of course, as an American, you have no concept of improper British slang. *cough, cough*

32 posted on 02/17/2013 12:17:19 AM PST by Utilizer (What does not kill you... -can sometimes damage you QUITE severely.)
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To: cab1982

My ancestors started leaving that country four hundred years ago. “It was for the protection of that country.”


36 posted on 02/17/2013 1:47:53 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: cab1982
Might have to escape with the family to the US Embassy and hope they don't turn you away. Or maybe the Swiss Embassy.

There was a 1991 movie with a similar plot, but it was set in Iran:


38 posted on 02/17/2013 1:56:02 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: cab1982

1) Get your daughter a US passport.
2) Move out of their jurisdiction. (ie: Out of London, where ever)


39 posted on 02/17/2013 2:03:51 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: cab1982

Well, what you have got to remember is that field social workers tend to be Guardian-reading lefties, who will also equate spanking with child abuse (My mum was a residential social worker, and she more or less told me the same). They can be a pain in the arse to British citizens as well, one couple was compelled to flee to Ireland to escape their clutches because they judged the mother to have learning difficulties that rendered her an unfit mother (Irish social workers disagreed). Handy having a sovereign country nearby that speaks the same language but has full movement, working and residency rights for citizens of both countries, it means the citizen of either country can bugger off to the other when their own government starts acting up. If Scotland becomes independent, hopefully that will give us yet another alternative.

Anyhow, its also worth remembering that every country has its xenophobic a-holes. When we lived in the states, it was a close neighbourhood, but one family refused to have anything to do with us, even to the point where during the annual neighbourhood picnic, they said to the other neighbours that if we came along, they wouldn’t be, at which point the other neighbours said “well, don’t come then” (Think they overestimated just how much their presence was valued, lol). Don’t know why they didn’t like us (we’d never even met or spoken to them), must have been Irish-Americans of the type who still cling to the potato famine or something.


42 posted on 02/17/2013 5:07:18 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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You state that your wife is a British citizen. I believe the correct term is, "subject". There is a difference.
Where was your daughter born and under what passport did she travel? I concur that getting your state representatives involved with a complete paper trail. Good luck and keep us informed as to how things go.
43 posted on 02/17/2013 5:26:19 AM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: cab1982

Your child is qualified for dual nationality. I’ll PM you later with more info.


45 posted on 02/17/2013 7:46:29 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: cab1982
An older friend of mine who is a British emigre to the US described her recent trip home: “Everywhere I went, I was asked, how did you get a green card? ‘Green card?’ I said, ‘I am a citizen!’ That prompted comments over how I was so lucky to do that and questions about how to do the same. Britain is not even a nice place to visit anymore, and so many good people worried about the future and desperate to get out.”
46 posted on 02/17/2013 9:47:47 AM PST by Rockingham
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