[mnehring]

I guess my frustration is I see the likes of AJ and Ventura infecting our side where as before, our side was known for rationality and looking beyond the spin. We expect libs to fall for MSNBC’s BS. What we shouldn’t accept is our side falling for similar BS because it panders to our fears.

[Norm Lenhart]

True. But I question if someone is so braindead to accept either AJ or the MSM as legit news/fact/info, if 1: we want people that gullable on our side to begin with and 2: if they ARE on our side.

I understand and share your frustration. Believe me.

[Smokin' Joe]

Sadly, the bounds of outrageous behaviour have been pushed back by the Dems/Libs/Communists, partly because they use the notion that anything outrageous and complicated is just a "conspiracy theory" as a defense. (Who would have believed Gunwalker (Fast and Furious) or "Gangwalker" or the current version of the NDAA just 10 years ago?)

The effect is that those pushing theories which are beyond the pale find a believing audience because beyond the pale isn't as far out from reality as it used to be.

It's a lot tougher to find the line between outrageous reality and complete BS than it used to be.