“I don’t know how libertardians think those things will bring about a better civilization”
I’m just as perplexed as to how folks like you think more government will bring about a better civilization.
more government?
When did I say I want more government?
I would reduce the size of government by 90% AT LEAST if I were in power.
So explain how that is MORE government ??
The poster didn't say that, and it isn't what conservatives believe, we know that libertarianism creates more government, more welfare and social programs, and more democrat voters, not conservative voters.
The last 50 years of libertarian gains has destroyed America and doomed conservatism, the more broken our families and individuals and communities, and the more immigration, the more those weak, indulged, titillated people vote democrat and for programs to support their decadence.
Social liberals vote liberal, and vote for social liberalism, which creates more social liberals, and that is what libertarianism has been working hand in hand with the left to create for the last 50 years.