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To: mylife
Sarah Palin is a natural-born citizen because her parents were US citizens, even though she was born in Idaho, which was not US territory, let alone a state, at the time the Constitution was adopted.

Charles Francis Adams, a son of John Quincy Adams, was almost nominated for President in 1872 by the Liberal Republicans (the anti-Grant faction) but lost out to Horace Greeley. His mother was born in London in 1775 to an American father and an English mother. His supporters in 1872 clearly did not see him as disqualified.

44 posted on 03/09/2013 8:31:44 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
Are you purposely trying to confuse where a parent was born (irrelevant) with what the parent's citizenship is at the time of the child's birth?

What was JQ Adams' wife's citizenship when Charles was born, not where was she born?

-PJ

108 posted on 03/09/2013 8:59:54 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Charles Francis Adams, a son of John Quincy Adams, was almost nominated for President in 1872 by the Liberal Republicans (the anti-Grant faction) but lost out to Horace Greeley. His mother was born in London in 1775 to an American father and an English mother. His supporters in 1872 clearly did not see him as disqualified.

Well that proves it then. A man's supporters can't be wrong.

Of course, I supported John McCain in the Republican primary without having the slightest clue that he wasn't born in the United States. Had I known it, It would likely have changed my decision to support him.

Apart from that, Historically the mother's citizenship is irrelevant. Only the father's citizenship mattered until 1922 when the Cable act allowed women to transfer citizenship, and in 1934 when the "Women's Citizenship act" strengthened this ability.

My tagline was the defacto legal doctrine governing citizenship for most of this nation's existence.

405 posted on 03/09/2013 12:40:38 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Charles Francis Adams, a son of John Quincy Adams, was almost nominated for President in 1872 by the Liberal Republicans (the anti-Grant faction) but lost out to Horace Greeley. His mother was born in London in 1775 to an American father and an English mother. His supporters in 1872 clearly did not see him as disqualified.

CFA was born in Boston. His father (born in Quincy MA) and his mother (born in London) would have become American citizens with the Revolution and independence.

There's a gray area there -- what did happen with the citizenship of Americans who were living abroad through the Revolutionary period? -- but since Louisa Johnson Adams's father became an American consul in London and her uncle signed the Declaration of Independence, I'm going to assume that she became a US citizen by the time the Constitution was ratified.

436 posted on 03/09/2013 1:30:18 PM PST by x
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