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To: Rufus2007

The reason I am a conservative, and not a libertarian, is that I do believe the government has some responsibility to try and restore the American people to become once more a “moral and religious people”, because after all, the constitution will “serve no other”.

The Founders were dead on for their time period, but there is no way they could have anticipated the effect that mass media would have on this country. The person before who mentioned what the Founders would have done with gay marriage proponents and abortionists is correct. Why is there no mention of morality in the constitution? Simple. It wasn’t an issue. Nobody would have dreamed about killing their baby, or marrying someone of the same gender. It was just unthinkable.

I value the constitution as the greatest political document in history, but I also recognize the place of “One Nation Under God” and “In God We Trust”. The Founders never intended a society detached from its heritage and roots. If a country abandons its culture and tradition, it is ripe for overthrow by a foreign culture, as we see in Europe.
I don’t believe the Founders would have objected to erecting Christmas Trees in public squares, having a painting of Jesus Christ in a school, having prayer in school, or teaching children that they are accountable to forces beyond this life. I believe in an objective right and wrong, which we have learned from our human experience and the commandments given by God. We are given more freedom than people in every other country by our constitution, but with freedom comes responsibility, and we should all know the difference between right and wrong in this society. Right and wrong are not simply alternative lifestyle choices. They are definitive things.


167 posted on 03/17/2013 5:42:32 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

Most impressive reply.

“there is no way they could have anticipated the effect that mass media would have on this country”

This especially hit me. Much of our dysfunction today is caused by the nationalization of media (information) overriding the federalist separations put in place by our Founders.


175 posted on 03/17/2013 6:21:59 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Viennacon
I agree with most of your points and all of its sentiment. But I am very pessimistic about the prospects of the USA remaining as viable going concern. We're so profoundly broke - over $150 trillion under water with debt and unfunded liabilities. So what are we arguing about - some ineffectual posturing at the national level?

We need to get rid of every person in DC who talks about controlling behaviors, not protecting liberty. How did society get along before the age of the nanny state? We all know the answer - less government, greater liberty with accountability.

Less "help" from the wet nurse = more risk, greater downside to aberrant behavior, but greater upside in rewards. The pilgrims figured this out and made major ideology/policy changes just before they all starved to death. It is immoral to keep this “government is the answer” moving toward the inevitable total collapse.

We don’t need more “leadership” from government. We need less government. Government is an organism that only grows and metastasizes. It is never benevolent, never selfless, never for liberty and freedom – all it knows is growing in power and scope. If people would try to traverse the bureaucratic hierarchy of just the executive branch – they would suffer brain-freezing information overload, followed by a stroke, heart attack, then suicidal depression if Obamacare didn't kill them. It’s worse than that bad.

I will never again vote for anyone who seeks to control, apart from narrowly construed enumerated constitutional powers, the behaviors of citizens through the coercive power of state. There are WAY, WAY, WAY better ways to affect positive societal change then giving more illegal powers to the federal beast.

179 posted on 03/17/2013 6:40:20 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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