Posted on 03/17/2013 12:11:01 PM PDT by eagleye85
The average biologist who has bought Darwinism has almost no ability in mathematics. He can, at best, make irrelevant statements about likelihoods in hope that enough of his colleagues will agree and that consensus becomes the basis for the dissemination of the agreed-upon ignorance.
really/ do they teach science in art class? literature class only uses 100% true stories?
If you classify birds as dinosaurs...:^)
Most of the bones are fossilized, but some are not.
I think that when one finds a dinosaur bone that is not fossilized one should test it to see if it is younger than 60,000 years instead of assuming it is not based on the accepted dating methods of fossil records. After all fossil records did indicate the coelecanth had been extinct for 65 million years...however it turned out that they are not actually extinct. Now if that is because the methods of dating the fossils were no good, or because it just happened to have survived under the radar without us finding and dating any fossils for the last 65 million years...I don't know. But I do know, that one can't safely assume that a species is extinct based on such an approach, because it was wrong in this case.
At the very least, dinosaur bones that appear remarkably well preserved and not fossilized for being 70 million plus years old might be seen as a great opportunity to test the limits of how far back carbon dating can go on bones, by serving as an example of what no C14 other than what one might find due to error in measurement or ambient contamination...but somehow, those that perform such tests are ridiculed as anti-science by those who claim to be scientists.
Thus, I don't know for sure if any dinosaurs really lived as recently as mere thousands of years ago, but I am sure that it would embarrass a lot of "scientists" if they were, and they seem to use ridicule as a defense. And that is disgusting and hypocritical and cowardly and very much anti-scientific itself, and it undermines my faith in the integrity of all the related fields.
People love to use the coelecanth as an example of a “living fossil”. While it is true that this family of fishes have not changes much over a long period of time, it is untrue that they were unknown. There live in areas that have been dominated by native fisheries and because they are inedible, they were thrown back.
There have been claims that soft tissues have been extracted from dino fossils, although confirmatory evidence is scarce. Mary Schweitzer is the primary researcher and despite her discovery and her adherence to Christianity, she has no doubt that the samples in question are in the range of 65 million years.
And again, C14 testing is such that items that may be substantially older than 60,000 years hit the at about that time frame. Happily there are other radiometric techniques that provide accurate data.
As far as some scientist hiding information that would place dinos in recent time, it is laughable. Scientists are extremely competitive and given the chance to show everyone wrong, would jump at the opportunity.
The Qur’an doesn’t filter much on either side. It’s pretty vague on the subject of origins.
All dinosaur bones found have been fossilized. Tiny fragments of not-fully-fossilized soft tissue have been found inside dinosaur bones, but the surrounding bone is fossilized.
Solution: Abolish our nation's system of socialist-entitlement, single-payer, compulsory-use, police-threat funded, and GODLESS price -fixed monopoly cartel schools!
Simple! Problem solved. You teach your kids what you want. I teach mine what I want and all this controversy swirling around macro-evolution completely disappears.
Privatize K-12 schooling and the **only** people left fighting about it are the **HANDFUL** of scientists actually working in this very NARROW field. All other citizens ( including all the other scientists in every other field of science) don't give two twits about macro-evolution.
And yet, Mo hammadan Creationists than Christian ones.
Evolutionists are the biggest bullies on the educational block.
Evolutionist tend to be the biggest supporters of compulsory-funded, compulsory-use, socialist-entitlment K-12 schooling. Gee! I wonder why?
They want to force feed other people's children on a religiously NON-neutral worldview and FORCE taxpayers to pay for it.
If nothing in science is proven? Then what value does it have?
Has Science ever "observed" evolution?
They certainly have had plenty of hypothesis's.
Is then therefore science an exercise of a materialistic certainty?
That's all they have, since it is their foundation.
They can evoke the Oort cloud, and Dark Matter and Energy to explain a paradox.
But they still have no understanding of what gives particles mass.
The Higgs, the "God particle" the empty space that keeps you from slipping though your chair.
I know, lets create a multi-verse, that will show them.
Prove it.
It seems we have gone full circle.
"For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountain of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."
Robert Jastrow (September 7, 1925 February 8, 2008) was an American astronomer, physicist and cosmologist. He was a leading NASA scientist, populist author and futurist.
What do you own ?
What is it that you can say is real?
“And yet, Mo hammadan Creationists than Christian ones.”
I don’t think that’s true, although I don’t know the numbers. Creationists are a small minority in Islam.
Those aren’t cherry-picking. They are whole cherry tree issues. (If the theory is as well-established as you say, it certainly shouldn’t have cherries that big lying around.)
“What data would not fit the creation framework? No matter what you observed, you could always say “God made it that way.” “
It’s not a complete bank check. The main factors are a six-day creation period (not ongoing), the fall (no death prior to sin), and the flood.
The ToE is at least as flexible. How many times do we see data that surprised scientists, but rather than question the theory, they come up with a new just-so story to explain how it must have evolved.
“But what’s the predictive ability of the creation framework?”
Here’s something that comes to mind. http://creation.com/mercurys-magnetic-field-is-young
Tell me about evolution’s.
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