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Political Realities ^ | 05/05/13 | LD Jackson

Posted on 05/05/2013 9:16:53 AM PDT by LD Jackson

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To: cripplecreek
Another important point about what the Michigan father did. He put his own butt on the line without trying to get others to do the same.

That opinion is valid only on the assumption that adult citizens are not capable and able to make up their own minds.
You may choose to decide for yourself.

51 posted on 05/05/2013 2:07:43 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: muir_redwoods

It wouldn’t surprise me. The left desperately needs us to lose control and give them a reason.

If you look at history, those who remain calm win in the end. Think about the Chicago riot and the Weather underground. They lost because they were impatient and became increasingly radical and violent. The same is happening again and we need to be smart enough to allow it while defending ourselves.

However, no more coddling of clowns like William Ayers.


52 posted on 05/05/2013 2:13:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: publius911
That opinion is valid only on the assumption that adult citizens are not capable and able to make up their own minds.

Obviously a correct assumption.
53 posted on 05/05/2013 2:19:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: LD Jackson

“The constitution was written before
any police regulations,” replied the general.
“If they come in conflict with the
constitution, they are void. We stand
squarely upon the constitution. That is
our platform.”
“How do you intend to force your
rights?” _
“There is but one way—by an appeal to
the courts. We will go before the highest
court in the land if necessary. Meanwhile
we will- wait here in Washington if it takes
all summer. If the courts refuse us our
rights, there will be a revolution. I do not
advocate revolution, nor do I desire it, but
it will be irresistible, and it will be the
greatest revolution of history if the American
people are once thoroughly aroused.”
General coxey, Coxey`s Army,
May 3 1894


54 posted on 05/05/2013 6:13:43 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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To: LD Jackson

This worked out so well for the bonus army...


55 posted on 05/06/2013 2:05:47 AM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: TheZMan
Bad press? How about a massacre.

The Shot Heard 'Round the World, redux.

56 posted on 05/06/2013 6:13:37 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Defiant
...they could use pitchforks instead.

Tar, feathers and a fence rail would be appropriate, too.

57 posted on 05/06/2013 6:15:17 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Still Thinking
Well, laws would be broken. I think that's the intent.

A law in conflict with the Constitution is an invalid law.

58 posted on 05/06/2013 6:18:08 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: no-to-illegals
Imho, it is not time to start a war...

Is it time to start taking out those who will give the orders to fire upon us, provided the ballot box is ineffective?

59 posted on 05/06/2013 6:21:51 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed
I made a prediction several years ago. This was that prediction and this prediction was shared at what I considered the appropriate levels. Prediction ... by 2014 the American people will decide to vote at the ballot box, (prediction) by 2016 a vote at the ballot box will be in question. By 2018 all bets are off.
60 posted on 05/06/2013 6:38:26 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: LD Jackson
“Libertarian activist and radio host Adam Kokesh is hoping to get 1,000 people to march on Washington on July 4 — armed with loaded rifles.”

Wow. How stupid. Bolsheviks just have to plant one A-hole with a firearm, with instructions to fire a round into a police car, and it's all over for the Second Amendment.

61 posted on 05/06/2013 7:31:01 AM PDT by Gum Shoe (You live to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
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To: JimRed
Tar, feathers and a fence rail would be appropriate, too.

Would be nice if they could get access to Pelosi and Reid while in possession of those items.

62 posted on 05/06/2013 10:19:00 AM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: bunkerhill7

That is a great quote, but I have never heard of this event. I had to go look it up and learned about it. Interesting. Whatever short term impact he got from the march wasn’t long lasting, because he didn’t have a real army, and he didn’t have enough popular support. He got attention for a while, apparently, but that was all.


63 posted on 05/06/2013 10:26:07 AM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Gum Shoe
“Libertarian activist and radio host Adam Kokesh is hoping to get 1,000 people to march on Washington on July 4 — armed with loaded rifles.”

He isn't a "libertarian activist" but he is a left-wing radical. See the Michelle Malkin article linked below.
(BTW, Kokesh ran for Congress from NM-3 (Santa Fe area) in 2010. He lost the Republican primary by a big margin. I don't know plans for him to don the sheep's clothing again in 2014.)

64 posted on 05/06/2013 11:51:19 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: LD Jackson; LegendHasIt; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; OneWingedShark; ...
See this Michelle Malkin article from 2010:

Adam Kokesh: An anti-war smear merchant in “Republican” clothing

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65 posted on 05/06/2013 11:51:34 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: ClearCase_guy
Freedom of Speech means nothing is you refrain from saying things that the government doesn't want to hear.
The Right to Keep and Bear Arms means nothing is you refrain from carrying arms in any situation where the government doesn't want you to.

I believe the right should be exercised. A lot.

Agreed -- one of the reasons I like to open-carry when I can.

66 posted on 05/06/2013 11:53:20 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
That was a pretty good story (I saw it the other day). The stunt described in the OP here is in blatant violation of the DC law

How can it be in violation of DC law when any law contrary to the constitution; as explained in Maybury v Madison:

It is also not entirely unworthy of observation that, in declaring what shall be the supreme law of the land, the Constitution itself is first mentioned, and not the laws of the United States generally, but those only which shall be made in pursuance of the Constitution, have that rank.

Thus, the particular phraseology of the Constitution of the United States confirms and strengthens the principle, supposed to be essential to all written Constitutions, that a law repugnant to the Constitution is void, and that courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument.

The rule must be discharged.
and the Constitution itself says that the right of the people to keep and bear arms "shall not be infringed."
67 posted on 05/06/2013 11:59:36 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Still Thinking
Well, laws would be broken. I think that's the intent. According to the article, they're going to assemble in VA, where what they would not be in violation, then cross into DC, where open loaded carry IS illegal.

Remind me again by what authority DC is ruled... Congress? (To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District).

So then, if all DC's laws are from the Congress, and the Congress is bound by the Constitution, how can that law forbid open carry when the Constitution clearly says:
"A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."?

68 posted on 05/06/2013 12:05:05 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Are you planning on marching on DC with a loaded rifle? I want to know so I can stay the Hell away from you.


69 posted on 05/06/2013 1:21:04 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Are you planning on marching on DC with a loaded rifle? I want to know so I can stay the Hell away from you.

No; I just have a bit of interest in law. -- I'd seriously consider going the lawyer route if it wasn't for the fact that our judicial system is completely unconcerned with either justice1 or consistency2.

1 -- This is evident in that in order to challenge a "law" that is contrary to the Constitution, even plainly and explicitly so, one must violate that "law" (thus implicitly acknowledging its authority as legitimate) and fight from the weaker position of that of the accused.
2 -- This is evident in the "right to privacy" between a patient and a doctor that allows for abortion... yet that same "right to privacy" does not protect you from unreasonable searches (as guaranteed by the 4th Amd) or from having to submit all your medical data to the government (Obamacare).

70 posted on 05/06/2013 1:47:38 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Thanks for clearing that up. I hear people declare all the time that Income Tax is illegal, but if you don’t pay it, the jail time you get is very real. Our legal system is injustice on legs.


71 posted on 05/06/2013 2:15:56 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: CedarDave

Your governor is going to be in Tucson this week. I’m going to a reception for her tomorrow evening hosted by the Southern AZ Hispanic Republicans.

I’m so excited; I loved her at the Convention!


72 posted on 05/06/2013 2:33:29 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: DLfromthedesert

Susana’s very personable - hope you get to meet her.


73 posted on 05/06/2013 3:01:23 PM PDT by CedarDave
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