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Why Is The Smart Money Suddenly Getting Out Of Stocks And Real Estate?
TEC ^ | 05/31/2013 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 05/31/2013 12:17:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

The next span of the escalator has no foundation; its sitting on cream puffs.


21 posted on 05/31/2013 3:23:41 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: EarlyBird

So you’re saying watch the obamaites
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no the obamaites don’t have jack to do with it. (of course when things go well —they’ll take credit for it.)

Just watch the value of the dollar.

Everyone has been screaming rightly about fiat money since 2008 while the dollar has been tracking generally sideways.

Sometime in the next year however, we should get a breakout either to the upside or to the downside.

(I think the breakout will be to the upside and the upside break will be because of oil.)

but we don’t know. All we know is that the dollar has been basing for 5 years. whether that base is just a stepping stone to the next leg down or a secular bottom for the dollar remains to be seen.

but we should know in the next year or so.


22 posted on 05/31/2013 3:37:04 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: EarlyBird

So you’re saying watch the obamaites
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no the obamaites don’t have jack to do with it. (of course when things go well —they’ll take credit for it.)

Just watch the value of the dollar.

Everyone has been screaming rightly about fiat money since 2008 while the dollar has been tracking generally sideways.

Sometime in the next year however, we should get a breakout either to the upside or to the downside.

(I think the breakout will be to the upside and the upside break will be because of oil.)

but we don’t know. All we know is that the dollar has been basing for 5 years. whether that base is just a stepping stone to the next leg down or a secular bottom for the dollar remains to be seen.

but we should know in the next year or so.


23 posted on 05/31/2013 3:37:08 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

With our manufacturing productivity at or near a 50 year low, where would your secular bottom come from?


24 posted on 05/31/2013 3:56:20 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ckilmer

“the upside break will be because of oil”

But doesn’t Obama have some say about any increased oil production, or is the current level of oil production all that’s needed for your scenario on the rising dollar?


25 posted on 05/31/2013 3:59:47 PM PDT by EarlyBird (This space for rent)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Why Is The Smart Money Suddenly Getting Out Of Stocks And Real Estate?"

To enjoy the excitement of the bond collapse ahead, of course. [Real estate is insane, BTW. Don't know why they bother mentioning it.]


26 posted on 05/31/2013 4:20:18 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: editor-surveyor
"With our manufacturing productivity at or near a 50 year low, where would your secular bottom come from?"

Yes. The balance of payments deficit (from trade deficits) is seldom mentioned while being the most certain indicator of extreme government shrinkage ahead (due to economic collapse caused by outrageous regulations and government spending). High energy prices (the real energy boom for some) and agriculture aren't enough to sustain the wealth we've enjoyed. We're running too much on recirculating and rising debt.


27 posted on 05/31/2013 4:27:24 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: editor-surveyor

When our country becomes even more of a third world cesspool for many, oil will go down. That is, unless east Asia continues to increase manufacturing (manufacturing use, commercial transportation, hundreds of millions of new drivers). Then, our country would become even more of a third world cesspool (see third world oil exporters).


28 posted on 05/31/2013 4:34:30 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Simple. Bush’s fault.


29 posted on 05/31/2013 4:35:51 PM PDT by goodn'mad
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To: EarlyBird

“the upside break will be because of oil”

But doesn’t Obama have some say about any increased oil production, or is the current level of oil production all that’s needed for your scenario on the rising dollar?
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yes Obama might be able to find a way to curb the current uptrend in oil production. But so far he hasn’t done anything that would curb the current uptrend in oil production.

The obama administration is successfully curbing coal production by regulating it out of business.


30 posted on 06/01/2013 1:08:03 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: editor-surveyor

With our manufacturing productivity at or near a 50 year low, where would your secular bottom come from?
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US manufacturing PRODUCTIVITY is at an all time high and continues to make yearly gains.

However, manufacturing in the USA is at or near the bottom.

However, for now it looks like the trends are reversing. There are a lot of industries that rely on natural gas for power. The yawning gap between natural gas prices in the USA and other places in the world will force about 100 billion worth of industry in the next 10 years to return to the USA. There are other reasons. Here are two articles on the subject
Insourcing Boom

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/12/the-insourcing-boom/309166/

6 reasons manufacturing is returning to North America
http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/bulletin/6-reasons-manufacturing-is-returning-to-north-america/7422


31 posted on 06/01/2013 1:14:33 PM PDT by ckilmer
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Everyone’s productivity is high due to robotics, which is a good thing and a bad thing, but what matters is that there is almost zilch really going on here.


32 posted on 06/02/2013 11:29:56 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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