The Modern Defensive Rifle

The San Fernando Valley NRA Members' Council ^ | 6/1/2013 | Me!

[rockinqsranch]

I’m saying don’t. Don’t engage them as they will turn everything you say no matter your good intention, and compromise your efforts with semantics.

They will say “assault rifle” no matter you saying “modern defensive rifle” ‘til you are blue in your face.

I appreciate your intent, but we’re dealing with borg.

[Redcloak]

I’m not talking about convincing people like Michael Bloomberg or Dianne Feinstein. There’s nothing that will ever convince them that mere peasants should possess arms. I’m talking about how to speak to the targets of their propaganda; those who know nothing of firearms other than what they see on TV or in the movies.

[Redcloak]

Thanks to whoever added the banglist keyword. I completely forgot to add that!

[Secret Agent Man]

self-defense rifle

[Squantos]

Defense against human or animal. ?

Lions, tigers an bears oh my .....12Ga shotgun

Criminals ...,. My M4gery in 300 blackout is current tool

Glock 31 on me till I can get to one of the above.

Bumpin the thread ...stay safe !

[Redcloak]

self-defense rifle

Another good choice.

[Redcloak]

At the risk of hijacking my own thread, how do you like the .300 Blackout?

[Kevmo]

good points

Our ancestors wouldn’t be doing Pilates right now; by now, they would have been shooting.

[GenXteacher]

Utility rifle sounds good.

[Lurker]

Ours are Homeland Defense rifles.

[Yo-Yo]

The term “Assault Rifle” was started by the anti gun group.

Term "Assault Rifle" was started by the Germans in WWII with their Sturmgewehr 44 which transliterates into Storm Rifle, also called Assault Rifle.

The term "Assault Weapon" was a bastardization of the term "Assault Rifle" by the anti-gun groups culminated in the legislation commonly referred to as the "Assault Weapons Ban of 1994."

[Redcloak]

That’s also a good choice. “Utility” implies a tool while “sporting” implies a toy. It’s much easier to convince someone that they have a God-given right to the former rather than the latter.

[marktwain]

Many of those Marlins .22 rifles are legally “assault weapons” in New Jersey.

[BerryDingle]

Hitler’s Sturmgewehr StG44. Gun grabbers are fascinated with fascist tactics.

[elcid1970]

Wasn’t the M-14 simply `the greatest battle implement ever devised’? I know, Patton said that about the Garand.

Introduced to M-14 in 1969, the M-16 in 1970. Loved the former & hated the latter ever since.

[Afterguard]

CZ vz-58 Sporter. Nicest 7.62x39 available. Yours looks just like mine...

[Southack]

"Wasn’t the M-14 simply `the greatest battle implement ever devised’? I know, Patton said that about the Garand." - elcid1970

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Patton was clever and chose his words wisely, which is why it is worth noting that he *also* said that the 2.5 ton truck was the greatest weapon in war. Just not a battle implement.

Patton, unlike the German High Command (who were using mules for re-supply ops in WW2), recognized that getting ammo, food, fuel, and reinforcements to combat troops was more important than wonder weapons.

[GenXteacher]

As a factual matter, firearms are tools. Specialized ones, at that. Same as a screwdriver or a hammer- you use different ones for different things. All of the above can be used as weapons, too.

[Redcloak]

As I was researching that post, I looked up the etymology of the Latin Arma. The proposed Indo-European root for the word includes the sense that a weapon is a tool. That a-tool-is-just-a-weapon connection is an ancient one.

[Wildbill22]

Exactly. We are in fact dealing with the intellectual equivalent of the Borg, or perhaps Zombies.

Don’t even bother with them because they are a lost cause.

Any reasonable undecided person in ear shot of the conversation is who we have to concentrate on.