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1 posted on 08/12/2013 5:04:22 PM PDT by Enza Ferreri
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Bookmarked for later read


2 posted on 08/12/2013 5:06:31 PM PDT by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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Quote from Churchill's famous polemic against Islam:

"No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."
Wikipedia entry: The River War.
3 posted on 08/12/2013 5:08:37 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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Are you sure cause the Chinese invented everything except for the moslemites who invented everything and everything we have is just the fallout.


4 posted on 08/12/2013 5:15:22 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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This is the oddest article I've read in a long while and I don't understand what you're saying. You can't have science without Christianity? Science didn't exist before Christ?

I don't get your point.

5 posted on 08/12/2013 5:21:13 PM PDT by Jean S
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‘Einstein gives birth to gravity’ makes as much sense.


11 posted on 08/12/2013 6:03:58 PM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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I am surprised that the name of the late Fr Stanley Jaki did not come up (if it did, I missed it). Fr Jaki was one of the foremost historians of science in the 20th and early 21st century.

Fr Stanley was a Benedictine priest who was born in Hungary. He survived WWII and was able to escape to New Jersey when the commies took over after the war. He earned Ph.D’s in theology and later in physics. His advisor for the physics Ph.D—whose name I can’t remember at the moment—taught at Fordham and went on to share the Nobel Prize in physics. Fr Stanley’s teachers were of the highest caliber.

Fr Jaki himself won the Templeton Prize for advancements in the field of religion, and gave the famed Gifford Lecture Series at the University of Edinburgh in 1975-76. These lectures were published under the title of, “ The Road of Science and the Ways to God.” The book is a challenging read, but indispensable if you are interested in the history of modern science.

An easier introduction to his writings would be through his many essays. The collection, “Numbers Decide and Other Essays” would be good for quant types. My own favorite is a book called, “The Absolute Beneath the Relative.” Also excellent and accessible to the general reader is his autobiography, “A Mind’s Matter.”

Fr Jaki was a lifelong anti communist and used to be published in all the conservative journals such as the old National Review, et al. His thumbnail sketch of the history of modern science is called “The Baby and the Bathwater.” I highly recommend it.


16 posted on 08/12/2013 7:01:12 PM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher: There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.)
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It seems overwhelmingly obvious that Christianity made science possible.

Even medical science was broken free from fatalism by the miraculous.

We don’t have to be sick.

Atheists are unable to explain why the universe is ordered or why observed laws remain consistently in effect.

I think this essay understates Christianity as causation.

Even the classic case of Galileo misses why Galileo refused to recant.

Galileo believed that God made the world in an ordered rational manner and so he was willing to defy the church order.

Jesus’ advice in John 8 about the truth setting us free established an intellectual paradigm that allows us to resist the normative practice of propaganda that continues to dominate us today.

Secular scientist ought to be grateful for science.


18 posted on 08/12/2013 7:35:41 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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If atheist Chinese scientists in 2013 can come up with valid, peer-reviewed scientific papers today, then science isn’t dependent on Christianity.

The entirety of the original post is mere trumpet-blowing. You might as well argue that without the fire making skills of the pagan caveman, modern science would not have been possible.


25 posted on 08/12/2013 8:48:08 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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