Posted on 10/09/2013 12:00:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Go read redstate (I couldn’t sleep so I came here to check the latest news..) Erick Erickson has a great piece on strategy!
I endorse his approach and think we all should call Boehner, and our Republican Reps to let them know we think so as well..
As a matter of fact, I just finished reading his post.
He wants the 2 issues - government funding and debt limit - decoupled. He believes that they will have a better chance if they’re kept separate.
http://www.redstate.com/2013/10/09/this-is-the-strategy-now-do-it/
"Speaking to reporters at the White House, Obama said that if House Republicans re-opened the government and lifted the nation’s borrowing authority — even for a few months — he would enter into wide-ranging talks that could include his signature healthcare law and issues related to the debt.
“If they want to do that, reopen the government. Extend the debt ceiling. If they can’t do it for a long time, do it for the period of time in which these negotiations are taking place,” Obama said......" Boehner rejects Obama's offer for short-term debt, shutdown deal
Obama is counting on the compliant Obama media to frame the argument and the "facts" in order to make him appear reasonable and the conservatives as "hostages takers" and "terrorists" until they give him all he wants.
Obama does not care if the government shuts down. His goal (also Reid's and Pelosi's goal) is to break Tea Party conservative influence on the Hill. The battle is to tear out the heart and long-term commitment of their opposition in 2014/2016 and have one party government.
Good one.
Here’s another.
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Commandancy of the The Alamo
Bejar, Feby. 24th. 1836
To the People of Texas & All Americans in the World—
Fellow Citizens & compatriots—
I am besieged, by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna — I have sustained a continual Bombardment & cannonade for 24 hours & have not lost a man — The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion, otherwise, the garrison are to be put to the sword, if the fort is taken — I have answered the demand with a cannon shot, & our flag still waves proudly from the walls — I shall never surrender or retreat. Then, I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism & everything dear to the American character, to come to our aid, with all dispatch — The enemy is receiving reinforcements daily & will no doubt increase to three or four thousand in four or five days. If this call is neglected, I am determined to sustain myself as long as possible & die like a soldier who never forgets what is due to his own honor & that of his country — Victory or Death.
William Barrett Travis.
Lt. Col. comdt.
P. S. The Lord is on our side — When the enemy appeared in sight we had not three bushels of corn — We have since found in deserted houses 80 or 90 bushels and got into the walls 20 or 30 head of Beeves.
Travis
Stand your ground GOP. Because I think we are about to see a meltdown on the other side.
Bottom line, the question is asked, “Who is to blame for the shutdown”?
Public: GOP
The truth means nothing...
You’re absolutely right about what the baby in chief wants and if the GOP gives in to him there will be no negotiations. He is lying just like always.
Agreed. Obama-Reid-Pelosi-MSM are doing everything they can to drive a wedge and create division in the growing ranks of opposition now coalescing on the Hill.
Their aim is to shut down the growing influence (and numbers) of Tea Party conservatives (render them toothless in 2014-16).
To some extent this is true. But the MSM needs examples, interviewees, to pour on the coals and really make their pathetic case. This is becoming more and more difficult because the young GOP conservatives they have to talk to to make that case are smart, quick, and unrelenting. A good case in point yesterday was Andrea Mitchell's interview of the GOP congressman who handed her ass back to her on a silver platter. Be encouraged - we sent some pretty fantastic people to Congress in 2010 and they are raising hell. They pushed Boehner into a corner and they made him grow a spine for once. They pushed Obama into behaving like he really is - a two-year old brat that needs a diaper change and a nap. Obama's petty actions on Parks, Death Benefits for Fallen Soldiers, Monument Closings, et al is going to bite him in the ass. It wouldn't surprise me that his ego is going to make him do something stupid like hold up Social Security Checks this month just because he can. And, if he does that, then I'll just count that check of mine as money well spent if it stops his tyrannical ass.
Thanks for the encouragement, I hope you’re right. The MSM is all-powerful to a (want to be) duped populace.
The GOP is losing in:
a. The Mainstream Media
b. The Washington social circuit
But it is winning eve3rywhere else...
This is good news.
“Winning everywhere else” is fantastic but NOT ENOUGH these days. The fact that the People support or are against an issue does not matter anymore. The truth is irrelevant. The media molds the minds...
The GOPe already bargained itself way down—and they’re still simply trying to get to the negotiating table.
But at least they’re not totally folding immediately.
The longer this goes, the more people tune in to figure out what in the Sam Hill is going on. The more they tune in, the less they represent low information voters who can be duped by a dupicitous press. Obama loses the longer this goes, which is why they are becoming hysterical.
There’s definitely a divide and conquer approach being taken.
Yesterday I had two coworkers talking near my cube about the shutdown. One commented that there was a majority in the House (Dems plus a few Republicans) to reopen the government ... but Boehner wouldn’t hold a vote that would let them.
So I turn around and (innocently) ask: “Why aren’t the Democrats using a discharge petition?”
“What’s that”
“Its a petition from House members to have an immediate floor vote on something. All it takes is more than half the membership to sign and the Speaker gets overridden and a vote must be held”
“Really?”
“Yeah. If the Dems could put together a majority to support a vote, they could have it whenever they want.”
I really wish this was true. I feel like election night, 2012 when the GOP was CONFIDENT. How can he lose? MSM is blasting away and hysterics can and will dupe the country into believing that the GOP is holding the country up or hostage. I'd like to hear a realistic assessment from somebody not swayed by their (our) dislike for POTUS...
“The don’t-call-it-a-supercommittee Bicameral Working Group on Deficit Reduction and Economic Growth is supposed to force Democrats to the negotiating table — or at least provide more political cover for Republicans.”
This is where Lucy pulls the football away from Charlie Crown — in conference committees. If the House goes for this you’ll know it was the House that ‘blinked’ in this stand-off.
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