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Sorry, Folks, Rich People Actually Don't 'Create The Jobs'
Business Insider ^ | 11/30/2013 | Henry Blodget

Posted on 11/30/2013 11:16:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Wow so if I want to create a company that has the potential of creating a million jobs I won’t need any initial investors?? Yippee!!! Well I got $50 bucks on me, I could start a lemonade stand...


21 posted on 11/30/2013 11:33:32 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Another version of "You did not build that".
For every company in existence, someone had to take the initiative and pour a lot of work and money into it.
It did not "just happen" because government in its infinite wisdom set the economic stage for us.

22 posted on 11/30/2013 11:34:27 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: dainbramaged
Exactly right: One thing for sure is poor people create ZERO jobs.

The author has engaged in the sophist argument that's easily understood as "chicken or the egg" in trying to establish an absolute first cause. That's why your comment, with its easily understood inverse logic, shows the author to be an economic moron.

23 posted on 11/30/2013 11:34:28 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“...healthy economic ecosystem — one in which most participants (especially the middle class) have plenty of money to spend.”

As if this simply materializes out of thin air.


24 posted on 11/30/2013 11:36:03 AM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Steely Tom

“Basically, this guy had one career-making call back in 1998 that he parlayed into a Wall Street career that lasted two or three years. The firm he worked for blew itself up five or six years later.”

Like getting medical advice from a doctor who hurt his patients and lost his license.


25 posted on 11/30/2013 11:36:47 AM PST by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: SeekAndFind
When Yahoo went hyperbolic Henry was asked if one could afford to buy Yahoo at its lofty PE. He replied, “The question is not whether you can afford to buy Yahoo; the question is can you afford not to buy Yahoo”. Yahoo collapsed shortly thereafter.

Henry, “And it ignores the assertions of many investors and entrepreneurs (like me) that they would work just as hard to build companies even if taxes were higher”.

Hogwash. No laffer curve? If Henry is right we need to double taxes straight away and eliminate the debt.

26 posted on 11/30/2013 11:39:46 AM PST by bunnie911
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Don’t forget you need to buy a licence from the city, state, whoever before you can open up, and be sure to collect sales tax! LOL.


27 posted on 11/30/2013 11:40:32 AM PST by Joe Miner
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To: Steely Tom
And Business Insider will publish anything from Blodget?

LOL, a leftist criminal that got caught is trying to smear those that play by the rules and succeed in creating jobs and stable economic conditions, with his own excrement, and BI help

28 posted on 11/30/2013 11:41:03 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: x

:) Nice.


29 posted on 11/30/2013 11:43:53 AM PST by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"A healthy economic ecosystem — one in which most participants (especially the middle class) have plenty of money to spend."

Hey Henry, how the Hell can there be a healthy "economic ecosystem" with sky high taxes and oppressive regulation on businesses that causes the point of sale being out of reach for the "middle class?" Go back to giving tennis lessons, you were better suited.

30 posted on 11/30/2013 11:47:37 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: SeekAndFind
Henry Ford never created jobs. Carnegie created no jobs making steel. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs never created one job. You must depend on Obama who created 92 million jobs./s
31 posted on 11/30/2013 11:49:20 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: bigfootbob
"A healthy economic ecosystem — one in which most participants (especially the middle class) have plenty of money to spend."

Ok, so cut taxes on the middle class, so they have more money to spend.

32 posted on 11/30/2013 11:50:59 AM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: Navy Patriot
And Business Insider will publish anything from Blodget?

Blodget is the CEO of Business Insider.

33 posted on 11/30/2013 11:51:44 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Steely Tom
Blodget is the CEO of Business Insider.

Well, that certainly explains a lot about BI!

34 posted on 11/30/2013 11:57:41 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Someone should ask Poindexter here if any poor person ever gave him a job.


35 posted on 11/30/2013 11:57:50 AM PST by jmacusa (I don't think so, but I doubt it.)
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To: SES1066

If government could create wealth and jobs we would never have recessions. Unionism doesn’t create jobs either. No union ever has, ever can or ever will create a single job. Unionism doesn’t create wealth, it siphons it off.


36 posted on 11/30/2013 12:02:15 PM PST by jmacusa (I don't think so, but I doubt it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

flim flam drivel.

What’s he doing for work these days?

Managing his silver spoon “401k” his dad left him?


37 posted on 11/30/2013 12:03:42 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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38 posted on 11/30/2013 12:14:45 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Entrepreneurs and investors like me actually don't create the jobs -- not sustainable ones, anyway. Yes, we can create jobs temporarily, by starting companies and funding losses for a while. And, yes, we are a necessary part of the economy's job-creation engine. But to suggest that we alone are responsible for the jobs that sustain the other 300 million Americans is the height of self-importance and delusion.

Huh... So let me see if I've got this straight... The 2 business partners who started a small computer sales and service business, who put up their homes and everything else they had as collateral weren't really responsible for creating any jobs... Let me see. When they first started, the company, it was the 2 of them, one other salesman, and one tech. As their sales and service sales increased they were able to hire an additional salesman and a receptionist/office manager. But the author doesn't think they created those 2 jobs? OK, fine.

As the business continues to grow, they needed another salesman, and they hired me as the second tech. I was unemployed at the time. So the author is saying that my job wasn't created by these 2 partners? Right... When I was hired on, total sales were about $30,000 a month, and they pretty much just gave away the service. But I had some UNIX and networking under my belt, and this was when Novell was really taking off. So they got me trained on Novell networking, and the company expanded even more...

Fast forward about 15 years. These 2 partners now own a company that has annual sales in excess of 45 million dollars a year, PLUS quite a bit in service. The office staff has expanded to 4 inside sales reps, and 5 outside reps, along with accounting/AR/AP staff of 4, 2 purchasing assitants, and 4 sales assistants.

The tech staff had expanded from the 2 of us to 4 bench techs to do the builds and to handle any service calls of people who brought their computers in for repairs. We had another inside laptop specialist, a Mac specialist, and a pinter specialist. And there were 5 of us field service/networking techs. Then there was a very lucrative contracting business, where we supplied techs to companies on long term contract. In fact, when a major financial institution needed a Novell networking specialist, the company contracted me out, at $100/hr, 40hrs/week, for 13 months. At one point, there were over 70 employees out on contract that never actually came in to the office. And we can't forget the Cisco CCIE on staff, for the serious networking. Then there was the service manager, and 2 service coordinators. And let's not forget the warehouse guy...

So these two partners didn't "create" those jobs?

At that point, a major, national computer VAR chain made an offer to buy out the 2 partners, and they had to give it a lot of thought, but eventually, they agreed, and sold the company. So, what did they do with the money they got from the sale? Well, they formed 2 more companies, AND STARTED HIRING PEOPLE!

So, if rich people do not create the jobs, what does?

Those 2 partners were certainly NOT rich, but every dollar they paid in taxes was a dollar they couldn't sink back into the business to expand it by, say... By creating a job by HIRING ANOTHER EMPLOYEE!

A healthy economic ecosystem — one in which most participants (especially the middle class) have plenty of money to spend.

Chicken & The Egg. The author is pretty dense, since you can't have money to spend if you don't have a job!

That's one of the reasons I got SO PISSED OFF when Barky made his infamous "you didn't build that" statement

Mark

39 posted on 11/30/2013 12:16:07 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Maceman; whitedog57
Does he think welfare recipients create jobs?

Well, they create government jobs. The more people on welfare, the more bureaucrats are needed to administer the programs.

I recall reading an article a long time ago that stated that given the rate of bureaucratic growth in DC, eventually there would be a Dept of Agriculture worker for every American farmer!

Mark

40 posted on 11/30/2013 12:21:33 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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