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What struck me more than this excellent article were some of the comments:

Commenter -Kevin R.C. O'Brien

NOTE: Commenter O'Brien is describing the wholesale importation of factories and technological know-how from the US during the 1930's. While I was somewhat aware of this, it never struck me just how massive this assistance was.

The Russians imported entire truck factories and reams of machine tools, and the expertise to set them up in production, between the wars. I once worked for a machine tool company that had shiped hundreds of machine heads and precision grinding machines to the USSR. One day oit of the blue we got a letter in Russian. Some guy in a factory was praising one of our #2 grinding machines, which had been displaced from its original factory to the Urals and then back to a new factory in, IIRC, the Murmansk area. He said that the machine was quite a celebrity in his plant and thanked us for making a good machine. The factory had since been sold but there were sons of several of the original workers who had built that machine, and I was able to find the original inventory card showing it consigned to Togliattistadt, IIRC, in 1934 or so.

Those archives (and all those guys’ jobs) were gone a few years later.


Commenter - So?

My grandfather mined gold in the Urals with a 1932 American dredger. US industrial aid to the USSR in the 1930s was absolutely massive. There are a few Russian blogs dedicated to the subject. Their inescapable conclusion is that it indeed was aid, and not simple trade. For whilst the USSR used every ounce of economic surplus to import industrial supplies, it got far more from the US than it paid for. (The stories about conniving commies tricking Depression-era “starving capitalists” like Henry Ford into building factories for them, and then not paying, are fairy tales.) IOW, the real Lend Lease happened in the 1930s.


The more I research this the more it becomes clear just how much US supported the Bolsheviks to the point of industrializing them during the late 20's and thoughout the 30's. It is a tradition that we have continued to the present day with the Red Chinese. Unfortunately, with the Chinese, it is even worse because our government appears to be hell bent on handing over the keys to the kingdom to them (open markets, technology transfers,ect.) while all the while hollowing out our industry.
1 posted on 12/25/2013 1:50:55 PM PST by wizkid
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The more I research this the more it becomes clear just how much US supported the Bolsheviks to the point of industrializing them during the late 20's and thoughout the 30's.

And the Bolsheviks paid for it in part by selling food on the world market in order to raise hard currency and thereby forcing its own people into cannibalism.

2 posted on 12/25/2013 2:04:26 PM PST by fso301
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Collectivism is parasitism, because collectives don’t exist.

Collectives DO NOT EXIST.

People exist, and people make things and trade with each other.

The word “collective” is the magic word that is used to get everyone to go along with parasitic slavery. That’s all.

Humanity will either realize this, and destroy the mind-f****ng parasites and live, or it will not, and it will die.

There’s no third way.


5 posted on 12/25/2013 2:44:26 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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7 posted on 12/25/2013 2:45:21 PM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: wizkid

thanks - very informative.


11 posted on 12/25/2013 3:55:23 PM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: wizkid

Great post!


13 posted on 12/25/2013 6:09:08 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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