Posted on 12/26/2013 10:12:33 AM PST by Fawn
It is important to note that the only person to “see” and authenticate the long form birth certificate of one President Barrack H. Obama is now dead in a plane crash. Even more controversial is the one that they submitted as truth on the Whitehouse.gov website is 10 layered in Photo Shop and thought to be fake. The conspiracy never seems to die.
Now a whistle blower comes forward and claims she forged Obama’s birth certificate in 1985. She doesn’t just claim that she did the long form, but the short form as well. Both those claims if proven are enough to make people worry about who really is our President.
Funny how this person is not only a family member but also insists she did it for the drug cartels in Mexico. Fast and Furious and the Federal Court ruling to include drugs and child smuggling make more sense now.
If you look at the data for births in 1962. Sunahara having a very high number is not surprising
Look at Edith Coats’ 1962 birth number, it also appears out of place. She was born on June 15th, 1962 at Wahiawa Hospital (same as Sunahara). Her BC# is 08498.
If they started numbering at 01 than the last number in May, 1962 is 07400 and the last number in June, 1962 is 08842. That puts Edith’s BC at the end of the numbers, almost 1100 BC’s were number ahead of hers and only 344 after hers.
But if they numbered alphabetically she would be in the beginning numbers and if chronologically she would be in the middle.
Like Sunahara’s, Edith’s BC was numbered late in the sequence. Coincidence? Does the fact they were both born at Wahiawa make a difference? Geographic regions?
He only posts that bit about the subpoenas to rub salt in the wound. He knows none of our congress people have any intention of issuing subpoenas. So he posts this riff about the subpoenas over and over and over to a sickening level of repetition. Either it’s a very sad case of OCD or he’s acting jerkishly—take your pick.
NG just posts stuff about the secret service, etc., to underscore the impotence of ‘birthers’. If you go back & study his posting history you will find countless such incidents. He just revels in rubbing it in that none of our GOP congresspersons are willing to act.
NG, I’m still waiting for my apology. You LIED about what I said on the other thread. You also LIED about what the article said. I’ve pointed this out to you several times now. How about mustering just enough integrity to admit what you did & apologize for it?
But there are lurkers.
Truth is more important than anything in the world. Even if someone says “Well, what about love? Compassion? etc”? Love and compassion without truth are nothing but lust and ignorant sentiment, and we know what the road to hell is paved with. Good intentions based on untruth have bad consequences.
Truth is the foundation of everything else that is good.
From what I have read in regard to the numbering system, it seems the documents were numbered in batches according to their receipt from the four regions in which the births at Wahiawa Hospital was one region. Verna Lee, iirc, said they numbered the certificates in batches at the end of the month. (I find that end of the month a little odd, does that mean a parent couldn’t obtain a bc for their child until AFTER the end of any month?)
But nonetheless, if there were four births at Wahiawa on August 4, 1961, and that batch was numbered and entered into the records system AFTER the much larger number of bc’s from Kapiolani, which included the Nordyke certificates, then yes the Sunahara bc from Wahiawa would be numbered ending in 41...
AND BE OUT OF SEQUENCE WITH THE KAPIOLANI NUMBERS FOR THE NORDYKE TWINS.
The blog The Daily Pen explained it all fairly well, I’ll post the link if I can find it again...
And all that goes to show I guess is...that the child whose bc ended in 41 wasn’t born at Kapiolani.
I’m not going to go into the Coats details, things are complicated enough as it is.
And the reason the Sunahara bc you have been shown as a COLB is 400+ numbers into the future of her birth, is that the family may have needed to show her bc to bury her, and when they realized they didn’t have one, they trotted off to the HDOH who raised them one 14 DAYS AFTER HER DEATH ANNOUNCEMENT APPEARED IN THE NEWSPAPER.
Because 41 was...
The cuckoo laid an egg into the nest of the reed-warbler, and threw the reed-warbler's chick out of the nest. Now the cuckoo chick has fledged and continues to demand to be fed. You know he's a cuckoo, but the only way you could prove it is to show who the reed-warbler's chick is.
Chirp chirp
I’m sorry, so sorry
That I was such a fool.
I didn’t know posts could be so cruel.
You tell me mistakes are part of being young.
But that won’t right the wrong that’s been done.
I’m sorry, so sorry
Please accept my apology
But I was blind
Yes I was too blind to see
“Who is the young man with the kenyan student ...”
I would say, “the EYES have it.” The young man with the Kenyan certainly does resemble that darker boy in the “two boys” photo. He also looks like that guy who went to school in Russia.
To prevent identity theft? Who’s going to steal the identity of the most powerful person in the world (arguably)? That’s ridiculous, imho.
Your sincerity drips from every line. Now answer this: how many other people have you misrepresented? I don’t mean just a little, I mean totally, completely—the way you did w me. And how many documents, sources, articles, etc., have you also misrepresented? In the one in question, the misrepresentation was wholesale. How many other times have you done the same thing?
You got it.
That’s the chick the cuckoo chucked out of the nest.
He grew up in Nairobi and when Malik said Barack Hussein Obama taught school in Uganda, he wasn’t talking about his father. And when ‘granny’ Sarah said Barack ‘passed through her hands’ she meant her step-grandson, whom you see photographed at the age of 5 or so with his father and stepmother Ruth.
And when Zeituni said the kenyan wrote home and told them he had a son in the US, that’s who she was talking about...know what I mean? lol!
It took a while to figure it out, but when someone who attended the funeral of the kenyan said that Barack Obama went to his father’s funeral, the lights went on...
It does line up. Thanks for putting the photos side by side. Previously I thought that darker boy was Mark, but Mark is relatively light-complected, even if living in Kenya. But that child looks as much like the Russian student as does Mark and baby Mark doesn’t look very much like that dark boy. Being perhaps relatives or even half-brothers, there would be some resemblance. So a case of assumed identity.
Happy New Year, btw!
Hi Fred,
I occasionally post on FR and try to follow your posts and those of butterdezillion, but the true story of aka obama’s life seems to be so twisted and the historical records so hidden and/or peppered with fiction and fraud that I find it impossible to make sense of them.
What I do know is that aka obama is a habitual liar of convenience so that his (or his minions’) statements about his past are not to be trusted. Aka obama himself claimed through his publicist over a period of many years that he was born in Kenya, but that could easily have been to give himself more credibility as a prospective author. Or maybe he believed it to be so at the time. Who knows?
Regardless of what the truth is, I am convinced that, if it were to have been revealed, aka obama could never have been elected, either because when he was hatched, he was NOT a natural born Citizen (or even a plain citizen) or that his early life’s true story would have been totally unacceptable to mainstream America (son of Malcolm X, son of commie pervert pedophile Frank Marshall Davis, born a bass-turd, etc. - take your pick). So aka obama has either committed felony identity fraud (thus rendering him ineligible regardless of whatever truth he was trying to hide) or was born obviously Constitutionally ineligible (probably not even as a citizen) or both.
I am very interested in understanding your theory about aka obama’s early life as you seem to have the best handle on it (hours spent investigating, evidence gathered, etc.). But the story is so twisted it makes my head hurt trying to follow it. I wish someone could lay it out in timeline fashion. Here are some pieces of the theory (not necessarily proven fact) I have gleaned so far (but probably have them jumbled somewhat).
Aka obama is older than he claims and was not born in Hawaii. He probably was not born in Kenya either. The senior Obama was not his biological father (is it possible that at some point, he became the legal father?). There is a good chance that Stanley Ann is not the bio-mother either. Senior Obama did have a child in Hawaii with a different Ann(a), who was Asian-Hawaiian, and who later moved with that child to the Philippines.
Who was it that lived in the Seattle apartment, Stanley Ann or Anna? Did the Dunham family leave Seattle because Stanley Ann was pregnant and did she have her baby in White Rock, Surrey, British Columbia, Canada?
Butterdezillion and other researchers believe that the Hawaiian newspaper birth announcements were completely faked (inserted into the historical record less than ten years ago). What do think?
What is your take on the various musical chair theories with the Hawaiian birth certificate numbers and how does Virginia Sunahara BC number fit in? Did she get assigned a BC number shortly after her birth (and death a day later) like the rest of the normal births, or was her number assignment delayed (thus explaining it being far out of sequence)? Did aka obama just take over her number or were there musical chair shenanigans as some numbers were traded around for some reason? (This last possibility is particularly hard to follow.)
The pdf BC posted on the whitehouse_dot_gov website clearly never existed as a paper document. This easily provable and Sheriff Joe Arpaio has airtight, court ready evidence that it is a criminal digital forgery, yet no politician will touch it. Why is that? I sometimes feel like I must be living in the Twilight Zone.
Anyway, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
And a Very Happy New Year to you also. I always told you how fast you were on the uptake, didn’t I? So this will be my last ghasp, I’m having some health issues and will be moving to live with my daughter. Need to take a break.
I doubt if anyone knows that Ann(a) was Asian-Hawaiian, and yes, she might have been the woman who the kenyan claimed was his wife from whom he was separated who was living in the Philippines. He didn't say she took their child with her. No way am I going to try to answer all of what you wrote. Just go back to the comment I posted with the photographs and start from there.
You signed up a few months ago and you want me to fill you in on everything that's been discussed since when? Good heavens, I've forgotten more than you can imagine.
This saga has the potential to be the next un-dead thread.
People who “haven’t created an about page” often have difficulty communicating here.
“People who “haven’t created an about page” often have difficulty communicating here.”
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I never noticed that.
Ever.
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We could fill terabytes with what you haven’t noticed.
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