Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article


1 posted on 02/04/2014 4:39:05 PM PST by JOHN W K
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: JOHN W K

And so you won’t vote for him because the 16th amendment hasn’t been repealed???

Get real tax reform is exactly what we need....It may take many different forms but for nearly a century the income tax has been a ratified part of the constitution. IF you don’t like that then work to repeal it. Don’t take shots at a conservative who actually has a chance of helping us.


2 posted on 02/04/2014 4:44:31 PM PST by Nifster
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: JOHN W K
It must be fun living in DreamWorld.

We are where we are, though, and Cruz is attempting to rectify it. If you think it will happen by a proclamation returning us to the world of the Founders, though, you're living a delusion.

Incremental change. That's what the communists have done to us and the best we can hope to do to them.

3 posted on 02/04/2014 4:54:43 PM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: JOHN W K
The only tax that should be levied is a sales tax on goods purchased, that would be enough to support the government and they should never be allowed to increase it over an acceptable amount of maybe 8%, an amount that should never increase a penny. Government is full of thieves and liars who hate those they are supposed to represent and have become slave-masters of American taxpayers who work hard to support these public disservice thieves who enrich themselves and their allies.
It would mean that people would keep their homes and goods purchased by hard earned dollars and would force the government to be small and streamlined. And it would force the thieves in government to seek gainful employment while allowing private companies to expand and grow and employ many people who would create and sell and spend monies, known as working capitalism that would float all those who work to benefit. But half of America, the left half, are fools and thieves and do not understand common basics of economy and , worse yet, morality and decency.
6 posted on 02/04/2014 5:01:37 PM PST by kindred (They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy. Salvation is of the LORD.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: JOHN W K

Another problem with flat taxes and so forth is the more we lower the taxes on the wealthy. The less they care about cutting spending. The more feckless upper class Republicans become and the more socialist upper class Democrats are. It is easy to be a welthy marxist when you dont really pay much in taxes and then you can continually live in your little New York City, Beverly Hills dream world. I would of agreed once. But when the people who run the country don’t pay thier taxes our experience is that we go into the fiscal toilet.


7 posted on 02/04/2014 5:03:21 PM PST by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing Corksucker.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: JOHN W K; Nifster
As long as Congress exercises a power to lay and collect taxes calculated from wages, profits, gains and other “incomes”, the IRS will not be abolished nor will the countless acts of tyranny end which are now rained down upon the people under a tax which taxes the people directly.

Abolish Congress. By any means possible. And the other two can go with them.

9 posted on 02/04/2014 5:11:18 PM PST by bigheadfred
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: JOHN W K

So now Ted Cruz is the enemy? You really need to get a grip, a flat tax while not ideal, is MUCH better than the current system, ideally we do need to repeal the 16th.

The question becomes how do we get there?? Are you out talking to your neighbors daily about our need for less government and for repeal of the 16th, if not then let up on Mr. Cruz who’s done a heck of a job fighting the Federal Leviathan.


12 posted on 02/04/2014 5:17:24 PM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: JOHN W K

Isn’t it quaint how 100 years ago they actually thought they had to amend the Constitution before they could impose an income tax?


13 posted on 02/04/2014 5:36:00 PM PST by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: JOHN W K
Hey JOHN W K, what's this bashing of Ted Cruz all about?

Cruz sounded familiar themes in his nearly half-hour speech to the crowd before leaving to catch a plane. He repeated his calls that Republicans fight for liberty, gun rights,

the abolishment of the Internal Revenue Service

and the repeal of the health care act known as Obamacare.

http://www.dentonrc.com/local-news/local-news-headlines/20140201-sen.-ted-cruz-keynote-speaker-at-denton-county-gop-dinner.ece
14 posted on 02/04/2014 5:38:11 PM PST by smoothsailing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: JOHN W K

Why not lay off the anti-Cruz rhetoric, stop lecturing, and come up with some practical ways of getting something done? You’re not even creating a base of support amongst conservatives with this approach.


18 posted on 02/04/2014 6:05:04 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: JOHN W K; All

Although it is correct that a flat income tax is still a Progressive Income Tax (the more you make, the more you pay...that is progressive)...I am not going to dump Cruz over this.

It will take awhile to bring back our revenue gathering done by our Founding Fathers...tariffs and duties, w no income tax. Too many on here, and who are conservative, still fall for the Marxist theory of income taxes over tariffs

Cruz does stand for reduced government...and that is a start in the right direction


21 posted on 02/04/2014 6:29:25 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (A Theory is not a Fact....It is not called the "Fact of Evolution")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: JOHN W K

The rule of apportion would require 50 different direct taxes for each of the states and commonwealths. The one with the smallest population and thus the lowest rate might readily ratify your amendment, figuring they’re getting a good deal compared to everyone else.

But all the rest would be less and less enthusiastic based on their population ranking from low to high. As many as half if not more might well conclude that they prefer the lowest rate or at least one lower than that apportioned to them.

I find it to be quite fanciful to believe that three quarters of the states would go along with such a scheme. They wouldn’t agree to it in 20 years or 100 years, much less the constitutionally binding seven.


34 posted on 02/04/2014 8:10:25 PM PST by smoothsailing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: JOHN W K

You posted something which is nonsensical. Please refrain from further stupidities.


35 posted on 02/04/2014 8:13:43 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: JOHN W K
Ok, so Ted Cruz is a bad guy. Who is better?
47 posted on 02/04/2014 9:58:52 PM PST by McGruff (I'm a Conservative. Not necessarily a Republican.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: JOHN W K

I support Ted Cruz and the flat tax.

:-)


51 posted on 02/05/2014 8:28:35 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson