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1 posted on 04/03/2014 6:19:32 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Wtf u mean he did’t see combat?


2 posted on 04/03/2014 6:21:10 PM PDT by TheArizona
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To: markomalley

All Ive heard from left wingers is that this is all the war in Iraq’s fault..this guy served 4 months of duty in Iraq towards the end of the war, he never saw any combat, he was a nutcase BEFORE he went to Iraq but hey, nothing says exploit a tragedy by finding some way to blame Bush for it


3 posted on 04/03/2014 6:22:27 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: markomalley
Lots of people have challenges in life.
Lots of people become soldiers.
If one of the people who joined the military also happens to be one of the people who experiences challenges, then everyone thinks they have PTSD.

Some people do have PTSD.
But not every troubled soldier is a sufferer of PTSD.

Personally, I think some of this stuff is used/will be used by the media to argue that mental health services for all 300 million Americans should be covered by Obamacare. It will probably triple your premiums, but who cares about that?

4 posted on 04/03/2014 6:27:29 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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He was angry cuz the Army wouldn’t permit him time off to go to his mom’s funeral.

NOTHING to do with combat strees.

He was angry at the US Army, and this is how he showed it.


5 posted on 04/03/2014 6:29:29 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: markomalley

I do blame Obama for not immediately reversing the Bush 41 rule change.


6 posted on 04/03/2014 6:30:47 PM PDT by bootless ("If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth."~RWR)
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Let me tell you who ,in fact , left our military helpless from islamic terrorists. BUSH 1. Never allow Bush 3.


7 posted on 04/03/2014 6:33:53 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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I think this is the 4th shooting of a domestic military establishment since the Regime seized power.

1) 1 Jun 2009 - Little Rock Recruiting Office (Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, born Carlos Leon Bledsoe)

2) 5 Nov 2009 - Fort Hood (Nidal Malik Hasan)

3) 16 Sep 2013 - Washington Navy Yard (Aaron Alexis)

4) 2 Apr 2014 - Fort Hood (Ivan Lopez)


8 posted on 04/03/2014 6:38:38 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: markomalley
What this man needed to recover from his depression after his mother's death.

Beginning Experience, a peer facilitated weekend for those who are grieving the loss of a loved one

11 posted on 04/03/2014 6:46:28 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Any more, these days, it seems that everyone in society is either crazy or on some psycho drugs. I think this is a problem with our overall society!


13 posted on 04/03/2014 6:50:04 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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If he'd been a member of the PR National Guard from 1999-2008, and joined the RA at that time, and was only an E-4, something was big-time wrong. 15 years and only a SPC? The boy obviously had something wrong with him.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

15 posted on 04/03/2014 7:04:16 PM PDT by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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None of this surprises me. They also said he got into a fight with fellow soldiers, which lead to the shooting. No so by the facts we know. This was not a spontaneous, heat of rage shooting. It was a cold calculated killing spree. He bought the gun off base a relatively short time before the shooting spree. He brought the gun on the base with killing on his mind.
16 posted on 04/03/2014 7:06:31 PM PDT by iontheball
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So, you have PTSD -- or you think you do -- and yet you didn't see any combat?

I'd love to hear about your exploits in Iraq.

I had a close family friend get killed driving a truck in Iraq.

18 posted on 04/03/2014 8:07:45 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (The bill was the subject of a truly awe-inspiring tsunami of poorly informed indignation. Rich Lowry)
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Did he convert while over there?


19 posted on 04/03/2014 8:08:21 PM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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The NPR-media are going GA-GA with coverage on this, because this can conceivably be laid at the feet of Big Pharm. Contrast this with the deathly silence about the last guy being a disgruntled Muslim. Yah, no agenda here.


20 posted on 04/03/2014 8:10:37 PM PDT by 50sDad (A Liberal prevents me from telling you anything here.)
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I treat vets in my medical practice. There are many who have been in combat and have “seen the elephant”. Some of them rightfully claim PTSD, others isolate those memories in an unused part of their brain and keep them there even though they experienced events that have given them PTSD and they function normally in life.

Others were losers before they went in the military and are STILL losers but now they believe they have an excuse even if they never experienced combat. I’ve seen individuals who were granted service-connected disabilities for PTSD and they NEVER left CONUS during their service. That pis$$es me off. I’ve directly cared for people who sustained horrible trauma in my medical career but I put those experiences away and keep going. I was covered in blood and gore but nobody was shooting at me. I have nothing but respect for vets who have been in actual combat.

This Ivan guy was definitely troubled but it is unlikely that he really had PTSD. That won’t stop the libtards from claiming that he did.


26 posted on 04/03/2014 8:33:55 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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I have done literally hundreds of PTSD evaluations for treatment and/or disability, for the VA. I was a member of the DSM-III-R PTSD subcommittee refining the diagnosis back in 1989. A few things: Serving in a combat zone, where one attempts to function in a condition of fear for his life, is a risk factor for traumatic stress disorder. There ordinarily will be a particular event that triggers a process of traumatization.

This could happen to a truck driver who, say, saw a lot of convoy duty, especially at night, as was typically the norm in Iraq. He may not have come under direct enemy fire, but the threat of hitting an IED or seeing a vehicle ahead of him hit, especially with casualties, may precipitate a traumatic stress reaction.

No, the "professor" is wrong, if he is saying there has to be prolonged exposure to extreme stress in order for a PTSD to develop. There does not. Prolonged exposure is not by itself a criterion for a traumatic event. It is a risk factor, but neither a necessary nor sufficient proximal cause. The traumatic event can be of short duration, and typically is.

That having been said, there is not enough openly known about this particular soldier for anyone, no matter how much "expertise" he claims, to make a judgment about the troop's mental status at the time of the shooting. Maybe that information will come out. Maybe not. Time will tell.

27 posted on 04/03/2014 8:45:19 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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There is no debate — the question is settled 97 percent of MSM employees are skid marks on Journalism’s shorts.


28 posted on 04/03/2014 8:47:23 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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But, what do I know? I'm: a) not a psychologist; b) never been in the military...I am and I was - both prolonged exposure to stressful events and individual severe stressful incidents can lead to psychological damage - and sometimes prolonged stress can make one more vulnerable to the effects of individual incidents - we don't know anywhere near enough about his man's background to have a clear picture of what was going on in his head - but I do note that after nine years in the military he was at the rank of E-4, not nearly what he should have attained after that much time in service - whether he was never promoted or was promoted and busted a time or two, it indicates to me that his troubles have been going on for some time.....
29 posted on 04/03/2014 9:24:01 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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I’ve experienced a lot of stress and trauma over the past 71 years but Daddy always told me “no one wants to hear your damned excuses, be a man”.


30 posted on 04/04/2014 4:05:32 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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