Posted on 05/23/2014 2:19:59 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Aside from theological concerns, how persecutory and unconstitutional do the conditions in the country become before anyone here would reject the pledge. FEMA camp stage or before?
OHHHH..PUHLEEZE..
Give unto ceasar what is Ceaser’s///
And Christians have the “opt out” clause of conscientious objection.
One is in control of what one says, what one says is not in control of them.
People worry too much that words are going to control them like a demon possession.
The Libs, Socialists, Communists, and Statists in power know full well that as long as the gibsmedats have their Mercedes on lease, big screen TVs, smartphones with unlimited minutes, and EBT cards filled with cash, no one is going to rise up.
Americans have proven to be an overly-tolerant people, even as the heat is turned up. As the saying goes, “The Founders would be shooting by now.” Wars have been fought for less than with what we’ve been yoked.
I have had discussion in the past where in FReepers stated their theological concerns about the country’s founding be a rebellion and rebellion against recognized civil authority being non-Biblical.
Was this article written in 1955??
I guess Benjamin here has never gotten married.
He’s pretty worked up over this “pledge” business. If the only pledge, promise, oath, whatever ... he can make is to God only, then he doesn’t understand the God ordained pledge a husband makes to his wife.
Maybe the writer has never been in a court of law where you do have to take an oath to tell the truth.
There is a saying that “rebellion against tyrants is obedence to God?”
So no joining the military either? . . . since you take an oath to defend the Constitution. Or run for office. Etc.
Really?
Seems like “straining the gnat to just swallow the camel” ... Literally taken, a Christian couldn’t then assume ANY position of public trust that requires an oath.
I am committed to the Pledge of Allegiance, to the United States that was, and is and shall remain in my heart. It is not the fault of the pledge that destroys us, but those who have abandoned the Pledge, it’s meaning, and the country.
God once had His hand on this country, because He was the foundation of her people.
RE: Maybe the writer has never been in a court of law where you do have to take an oath to tell the truth.
Well, traditionally it meant you are ultimately responsible to GOD for the truth ( and traditionally it meant the God Christians worship because you swear by the WORD of God ).
However, this means nothing today because anyone can simply AFFIRM that he/she is telling the truth.
That option is hardly new; it is in the U.S. Constitution.
Its not the government you are pledging allegiance, it’s the country as an entity. As a Christian conservative, there is no conflict. “Render unto Caesar what is Caesars” etc. ad nauseum
As long as our nation is under God, I’ll recite the pledge.
This is just so much nonsense. I listened to Mike Church rant on and on about this for about ten minutes, have never listened to his show again
bleeech...some folks suffer from any form of intelligence or logic
The left are getting so desperate that they’re now trying to use their limited understanding of the Christian faith to try and stop Christians from defending the pledge. Pathetic.
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