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Bible is clear on helping immigrants
abqjournal.com ^ | July 13, 2014 | Justin Remer-thamert / Program Director, New Mexico Faith Coalition For Immigrant Justice

Posted on 07/13/2014 7:53:34 AM PDT by moonshinner_09

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To: moonshinner_09

The way that the Democrats are arguing on this matter is interesting. They talk all around the subject. It leads me to believe that there is money in this for the Democrats.


41 posted on 07/13/2014 8:25:01 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: timlilje
This falls under the same classification as enabling a drunk or a drug abuser. Yes, we can take in these invaders. Yes, it could be considered an act of Christian compassion. But so could buying a drunk with the DT's a drink to calm his nerves, or handing an addict a dime bag of crack because he's hurtin'.

Sometimes the greater act of compassion is to say "No, I will not enable your continued sin. I will not empower you to destroy yourself -- and me with you."

THAT is what we should be telling these people, and more importantly, their enablers. "Do NOT send them here. They are YOUR problems to deal with, not ours."

42 posted on 07/13/2014 8:25:28 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: moonshinner_09

Horsespit and pablum claptrap.

Pastors need to stick to the gospel and not social reconstruction. I’m about as tired of them and their opinions as I am “celebrities”. One has slightly more reasoning ability than the other.


43 posted on 07/13/2014 8:26:07 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: mdmathis6

I would tend to disagree- several hundred years ago thousands of French Canadian families crossed illegally into northern NY State -settled near Saratoga -
The NY governor protested the illegality of it all and the Canadian governor of the Province begged and pleaded and they worked out a deal, but it was illegal period for them to cross the border..some also settled next to my grandma`s house.
I doubt very much if Canada would allow thousands of Americans to cross their border illegally into Canada- well duhhhhh I wonder why- coz it is illegal!


44 posted on 07/13/2014 8:30:53 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits n firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: cuban leaf

If we as a society had the practice of washing our feet prior to coming into a house after a dusty walk, then the practice would have had more significance for you(...especially if the pastor and deacons of a church had done the foot washing....as a way of explaining how Christ was a servant to us all and so were they). If you read the story, Christ washed all of his disciples feet and gave a lesson on Christian love and Christian leadership...”He who is the leader of all is the servant of all”

I think the way that these foot washing services go...with everyone washing each other’s feet... that Christ’s massage of servant hood and leadership is lost or diluted. To see immoral DEM politicians do it like Pelosi is cynical and is a mockery to Christ!


45 posted on 07/13/2014 8:35:25 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: moonshinner_09

So go to Guatemala or Nicaragua and help them.


46 posted on 07/13/2014 8:38:34 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: bunkerhill7

Different times, and a deal was reached. They were farmers and tradesmen getting their largesse from the land, and the government didn’t exactly give them free cell phones and welfare. Also did they maintain their allegiance to France(or had the British taken Quebec by then)? The question was whether or not the story of Jacob and family being “invited” to Egypt formed a theological argument to justify the overwhelming of our borders by illegals from other lands as abetted by avowed Marxists who hate our country and want to destroy it?


47 posted on 07/13/2014 8:44:07 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: moonshinner_09

The least among us would seem to be the displaced American workers, particularly the black workers, who are displaced in disproportionate numbers, and the companies, particularly the small contractors, who will not hire illegals. How can the rule of law survive if they are not given remedies for the injustices done to them?


48 posted on 07/13/2014 8:46:54 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: moonshinner_09

So we need to allow everyone in the world in who wants to come here?

He probably defends homosexual marriage, never mind what the Bible says.

I am beginning to hate these people. No logic, no common sense. Just feel-good garbage.


49 posted on 07/13/2014 8:47:42 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: moonshinner_09

The trouble is that we already send these countries huge amounts of aid, that is probably stolen by the Jefes. Their own leaders are exporting their dregs so they can get out of paying the social costs. Mexico prints pamphlets informing its citizens on sneaking into the US to get free medical care. This is an act of sabotage, frankly! For every illegal alien stepping on our southern border I would charge Mexico $100,000, and take it out of their accounts in NY. This nonsense would dry up in a heart beat.

We are more generous than any nation on Earth. So enough with the moralizing.

We are not going to be Uncle Sucker. Most of our states and education systems are out of money. We cannot take thousands of students, period! Our inner cities are apocalyptic crime zones - and we do nothing to stop that violence. Funny, Obama worries more about violence in Guatemala than he does in Chicago!

Why are we not making Mexico, Honduras and Guatemala pay for this! Where is their contribution? Why isn’t the UN in these countries investigating all these rapes? If it is a crisis then let us get the world involved. Why does only America need to pay.


50 posted on 07/13/2014 8:48:29 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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To: mdmathis6

Theology had nothing to do with Jacob- He and his family were starving in a famine


51 posted on 07/13/2014 8:52:29 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits n firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: moonshinner_09

Whether the Bible is clear or not, Alinsky certainly was...

RULE 4: The fourth rule is: Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.
You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules
than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.


52 posted on 07/13/2014 8:52:59 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: moonshinner_09
The Bible DOESNOT advise accepting an invasion of alien peoples. Moses killed the people whose territory he invaded. The current invasion is an event organized by a hostile Mexican government seeking to rid itself of its creatures and possibly to reconquer territory lost to the United States in the 1840's. Mexico has entered into an agreement with Central American governments to allow their citizens to cross Mexican territory and invade the United States.

Worshiping the invader is false doctrine promulgated by churches seeking to increase their power by bringing in members. IT IS NOT COMPASSION IT IS TREASON to assist the invasion. WAKE UP!

53 posted on 07/13/2014 8:55:49 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Texas Eagle

Bunch of stupid hippies. Hope they all get scabies.


54 posted on 07/13/2014 8:57:14 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: moonshinner_09

I believe in Christian compassion. We should put the illegals in camps, feed them, clothe them, treat their lice, and diseases, and send them home where they belong, where they can work to make their countries better places to live. Give them Christian love, and send them on their way.


55 posted on 07/13/2014 8:59:35 AM PDT by pallis
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To: moonshinner_09
Matthew 25 reminds us that salvation hinges on caring for “the least of these.”

A misrepresentation of the Gospel; a lie. So, why read this article any further.
56 posted on 07/13/2014 8:59:40 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: cuban leaf
Yes Jesus said to let the government clean out your bank account for the poor of the world. Give away everything so your children are without and have your property tax so high you cannot live there any more to educate the worlds poor. Next have your job given to these invaders as they will do it for 1/3 the money. America a land with no law and over run with the scum of the world.
57 posted on 07/13/2014 9:00:06 AM PDT by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!)
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To: moonshinner_09

This border invasion is a POLITICAL “crisis”. It’s time for the atheist, commie ‘RATS to leave God, the Bible and Christianity out of it. It’s that “church and state” thing that the commies are always crowing about. The DemocRATS need to have their asses kicked for “thumping” the Bible to pimp their communist politics.


58 posted on 07/13/2014 9:03:23 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The future must not belong to those who slander bacon.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Liberals sure forget their “separation of church and state” mantra when it’s self serving.


59 posted on 07/13/2014 9:11:06 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: moonshinner_09

This prophecy of Gods judgment from Deuteronomy 28 was originally given to Israel but seems very appropriate for us at this time.

“Your sons and your daughters shall be given to another people, and your eyes shall look and fail with longing for them all day long; and there shall be no strength in your hand. A nation whom you have not known shall eat the fruit of your land and the produce of your labor, and you shall be only oppressed and crushed continually.........

The alien who is among you shall rise higher and higher above you, and you shall come down lower and lower. He shall lend to you, but you shall not lend to him; he shall be the head, and you shall be the tail.........

Because you did not serve the LORD your God with joy and gladness of heart, for the abundance of everything,therefore you shall serve your enemies, whom the LORD will send against you, in hunger, in thirst, in nakedness, and in need of everything; and He will put a yoke of iron on your neck until He has destroyed you......

a nation of fierce countenance, which does not respect the elderly nor show favor to the young. And they shall eat the increase of your livestock and the produce of your land, until you are destroyed; they shall not leave you grain or new wine or oil, or the increase of your cattle or the offspring of your flocks, until they have destroyed you. They shall besiege you at all your gates until your high and fortified walls, in which you trust, come down throughout all your land; and they shall besiege you at all your gates throughout all your land which the LORD your God has given you.


60 posted on 07/13/2014 9:15:31 AM PDT by slumber1 (Moderation is overrated)
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