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To: EternalVigilance

We can explain the existence of humans just fine. And we don’t need a moral basis for equality of rights, we have a practical basis. Equal rights maximizes your society’s output, because you have more people in a position to contribute to the full extent of their ability. The more of your society that gets deliberately held back the less of your society that is producing and inventing and just generally supporting it. There was a great article about a decade ago talking about how Islamic treatment of women holds their society back, by telling over half their society no when it comes to pretty much everything they’ve turned half their society into deadweight, they have specifically outlawed Madame Curie and Lady Ada.

Equal rights is just plain good business.


54 posted on 07/15/2014 11:59:41 AM PDT by discostu (Villains always blink their eyes.)
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To: discostu

So, you don’t really care about the rights of others, as any sort of moral imperative, but only because you believe it will serve your own utilitarian self-interest.

I mean, why else would you care about “society”?

How about the rights of those who aren’t “in a position to contribute to the full extent of their ability”?

How about the rights of those who cannot contribute anything at all?

Are they disposable?

Why not?


56 posted on 07/15/2014 12:15:46 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I can't help it. I was born again this way.)
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To: discostu
We can explain the existence of humans just fine. And we don’t need a moral basis for equality of rights, we have a practical basis. Equal rights maximizes your society’s output, because you have more people in a position to contribute to the full extent of their ability. The more of your society that gets deliberately held back the less of your society that is producing and inventing and just generally supporting it. There was a great article about a decade ago talking about how Islamic treatment of women holds their society back, by telling over half their society no when it comes to pretty much everything they’ve turned half their society into deadweight, they have specifically outlawed Madame Curie and Lady Ada. Equal rights is just plain good business.

What if it becomes "bad business," ie, like Malthus, you think we have too many people, which is therefore a detriment to what you call "society"?

58 posted on 07/15/2014 12:30:04 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I can't help it. I was born again this way.)
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To: discostu
Equal rights is just plain good business.

Maybe but that is not biblical.

Luke 12

From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.

60 posted on 07/15/2014 12:37:24 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: discostu

We can?
Do so.
Tell us all step by step how they came to be starting from the big bang.
Demonstrate your hypothesis.


67 posted on 07/15/2014 1:07:02 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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