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To: Charles Henrickson

Fine subject and all.

But I am curious regarding references to “the Weeds and the Wheat”.

Is there some logic or research that went to this phrasing -vs- the traditional and more accurate “the Wheat and the Tares” ?

First of all, the latter expresses the proper order of this teaching. Wheat sown first.

Also, tares (Strong’s: darnel) are not just any generic weed. And, in my opinion, the generic “weeds” references could tend to emphasize the burden of them. Whereas “tares” emphasizes the falseness (Strong’s: false grain).

There are many burdens in this world, not all of them evil. However, the tares of Matt 13 are planted with evil intent and represent falseness sown amongst truth. It is toxic if partaken and in the end produces no nurishing fruit/grain.

I’m not wise enough to determine if ESV has been dumbed-down for English readers and perhaps I’m just being too danged picky. But personally, it was to some extant the word ‘tares’ in the KJV that made me more curious about the meaning of the parable and enticed me to study it further. As a gardener, had I seen the word ‘weeds’ instead, I would have immediately associated it with a recognizable burden, but it likely would not have prompted me to open the Strong’s to reveal the more accurate definition.

Again, I’m not saying I’m qualified to make this determination. But, it feels like an example of translators or denominations changing text to somehow make it more lazily digestible for whatever audience by making it less true.

If that happens to be the case, especially if intentional, then the fruit of it would be both toxic and ironic.


5 posted on 07/21/2014 3:01:27 AM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: BuddhaBrown

Is there some logic or research that went to this phrasing -vs- the traditional and more accurate “the Wheat and the Tares” ?


You make a good point.

In my way of thinking The son of God planted the good seed but Jesus said many shall come in my name and deceive many.

In fact Jesus goes to some length in making us aware of false prophets.

Mathew 23
27
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness.

28
Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

Jesus was referring to the religious leaders of his day but I believe it is no different today, it is the out side of the cup that is of interest.

Don`t drink.

Don`t even think of smoking.

Make sure every one observes you praying, etc.


7 posted on 07/21/2014 5:37:33 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: BuddhaBrown
Concur.

Young tares are indistinguishable from young wheat, only after wheat has seeded can the difference be seen and thus separated at harvest. Weeds can be seen immediately as a totally different animal from wheat.

8 posted on 07/21/2014 5:40:59 AM PDT by JParris
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